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Created by : Kriti Das, HR Manager, ANZ Information Technology  | 06 11 2010 07:41:51 +0000
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In a recent news Industry body Nasscom which is headed for a clash with headhunters as its insistence on stopping the practice of ‘poaching’ executives of its member companies draws flak from recruitment firms with specialised skills in spotting and enticing the flight of top talent.

http://www.smartcompany.com.au/Media/images/poaching-7c2c2e70-2f83-4f32-841f-8b2236451b8a.gif

And even Mapping which is a practice of using sources and reference points to find out the contact details and position of the employees of a firm which could range from the junior to the senior most employees of the firm. It is by mapping that the recruiter ensures that he or she gets the right fit, which in turn increases the firm’s conversion rates.

Don't  you think that this is causing problems interms of Hiring practices....Do you think Poaching & Mapping should be banned?

 
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I think yes there are a number of concerns over poaching of employees & executives within the IT industry. It fears that such acts will lead to unethical practices such as employees leaving without serving the notice period, forging of certificates, leakage of confidential data. And it will be all messed up in future in regard to hiring practices...


By Kriti Das, HR Manager, ANZ Information Technology  06 11 2010 07:41:51 +0000
 
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I don't think so.

Business is like fighting a war ; each side is entitled to use all legal means to get the best for itself , whether it is by way of customers or employees.

It is up to the employee , who is being enticed away from his present company , to either accept or reject competing offers.

Such poaching is regularly practised in football clubs , and no one sees anything wrong in it. Why then should it be banned in corporates ?

 


By K. NARAYAN, None, None  06 11 2010 11:58:55 +0000
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Thanks for the referral Ms Kirti

A very good topic for debate. I think that there should be set some limits on poaching . It would be very difficult to put a ban on this


By Dr Ali Ahmad, Independent Health Care Consultant, Hospital Management Consultant  | 06 13 2010 10:47:01 +0000
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After all the worth of job vis-a-vis person is at loosing end.
By Kamal Dave, Managing Partner, Advocate & Legal Advisor, Cyberjuris - Law Firm  | 06 11 2010 08:22:59 +0000
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Yes it is happening. These thing cannot be banned officially. It will keep on happening perticularly in IT Industry since it is pure competence based and every company gets their business on that basis.

With coming time it may slow down but will not stop completely.


By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 06 11 2010 08:15:15 +0000
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NO ONE CAN RETAIN PERSON AGAINST HIS / HER WILL.PEOPLE WHO HAVE DECIDED TO QUIT OR IN AN WAVERING MIND TO CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENT EMPLOYERS ONLY SWITCH OVER.


By s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD  | 06 25 2010 14:13:19 +0000
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I agree with Mr. Narayan.. It is business and competition from employer point of you say. And growth and future from employees point of you say.


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  | 06 12 2010 15:01:23 +0000
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Hi Kriti, thanks to have invited me to this discussion.

Unluckily I can't share your same opinion. I'm against any hypothesis to ban any legal method able to return the design and composition of a third organization.

In my opinion it's perfectly ethical to use open sources (news, company communications, names of people participating to events or fairs or external teams - standardization bodies, professional associations,...- etc,) to put together pieces of information designining a more complete picture of the same organizational subject.

In my opinion, it is ethical too to use info coming from people conversations. Of course people speaking with you have to know who you are and what are your purposes. Of course, the info gained through these interviews can't be of the kind rightly protected by the analyzed company (market, financial or product confidential info, for example).

I suppose these are the basic rules of an ethical market intelligence

My 2 cents


By domenico fama, HR Business Parner, international Bank  | 06 12 2010 07:01:40 +0000
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'Poaching' is such a negative term that has been coined for some reason. My argument against this is:

1) Companies always demand for professionals who will give them returns from day one. Companies are always hunting for exact matches to their open positions. Companies are rarely willing to compromise. Now, how does one satisfy this need? The only way to do this is to hire from a competitor. Unless they hire from a competitor how will they find someone with exactly the kind of experience that they are looking for?

2) There is a double standard here. If a company has an open position that they need to fill asap, they will do anything to fill that position without hesitating, but, if someone else hires their employee they begin to cry out loud about headhunters and 'poaching'. Its always a two way game.

The crux of this issue is not headhunters or the practice of poaching. This practice of poaching arises from the issue - Why are companies always in a desperate need to hire? Is it poor management of talent? Is it poor retention management? These are the questions that need to be answered and just by blaming the practice of 'poaching' will never produce any positive results.

Regards,

Om Deshpande


By Om Deshpande, Business Consultant, JobsXS  | 06 12 2010 06:06:39 +0000
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Poaching as such is viewed as a very negative practice more so b'coz of the word used to describe this phenomena but digging deep into it one can realize that  its just simple theory of demand and supply which is at work here.Someone who is talented is surely going to get admirers.If you really had believed in his talent you should have rewarded him suitably and if you could not do so then you have no right to blame somebody who has done so by saying that he is poaching your candidate! 

So if a shoe doesn't fit your leg don't  cut your leg,instead improvise and redesign the shoe.Don't ban poaching just tweak your system to recognize and reward talent optimally and of course relatively.


By Amit Kumar, Design Engineer, Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited  | 06 11 2010 16:42:11 +0000
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It is a critical tool for many top recruiters and they would be loath to drop the practice. And preventing mapping is not a practical solution. It is one of the main ways of securing top candidates.

They had also done a no-poach before but that did not work amongst the IT firms and although these things are possible when one works in niche areas like biotechnology, in case of the IT industry it is not possible to have such solutions..


By Darshana Sawant, HR Manager, Leading IT services company  | 06 11 2010 12:33:32 +0000
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I feel no body should come in the way of an employee if he is getting a better opportunity to grow professionally in the other organisation.
By Ravi , Independent Consultant, .  | 06 11 2010 09:40:19 +0000
 
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