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Created by : Sonal Singh, Project Manager, Nortel Networks  | 01 12 2010 06:01:19 +0000
Industry : Telecom/ISPFunctional Area : Innovation(Strategy & Execution)
Activity:  1580 views;  last activity : 10 14 2010 09:31:52 +0000

I was really impressed with the views of Joanie wexler from San Francisco chronicle.

I would like to quote his post where he said

"I'm a cheerleader for competition, innovation, freedom of choice and all that, but the volume of mobile operating systems and phone types has reached the point of creating industry chaos and confusion for both enterprises and consumers. Google's recent foray into the mobile phone market with its Android-based, HTC-manufactured Nexus One makes me wonder: 

Should the industry just take a breather for a few months while broadband wireless network buildouts and mobile device management (MDM) capabilities catch up to smartphone demands?"

As there are many phones which are on different Operating systems like Blackberry, Palm OS, windows phone, Google android, network enterprises are choking to death, as new forms of phones like Androind are piling up as hardware and software versions are out of sync and the mobile OS itself is growing fragmented. Consumers don't know a Droid from an Android from a Nexus One, and enterprises don't have too many Android MDM options  available to them yet.

And many a telecom managers who have attempted to support all the various phones users bring into the enterprise and has ultimately given up, as it was too much to take.

In this regard we need to standardize Mobile devices which can run on current infrastructure with some small tweaks as it will be really difficult for Network providers to support all those smartphones. What do you think guys, should one stop inventing mobile phones which will create so much chaos in future? share your views.

 
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I think yes, they should stop, I mean not completely but atleast take a breather for a while and let Infrastructure catch up first, as Infrastructure to support these phones are not great at the moment, and with so many different forms of OS in all those mobile phones, it is giving network providers a nightmare at the moment, and many who tried to support all of them, to their surprise were not even close to match these Mobile phone demands, also it is creating too much of confusion to the consumer. And infact I would like to say they should stop inventing mobile phones to prevent chaos in future, which is in contrast to what I earlier said in my argument.


By Sonal Singh, Project Manager, Nortel Networks  01 12 2010 06:01:19 +0000
 
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Innovation or Invention always help in enhancing the knowledge, not only of Inventor but the whole human being who so ever is using the end product. also it should be keep in mind that invention of mobile is not only the single attribute but it carries multiple things  like OS and technology. and more over an argument that "Infrastructure is not ready at the moment" is probably only applicable to india or its subcontinent whereas the world is far - far ahead from us. take an great example of MNP (mobile number portability) and 3G network (srilanka has already launched 3G). which have been implemented in many countries 5 odd yrs back(which are behind us in use of mobile phones).our system is very slow in implementing/adpating the new things very-very slow so we need to first catch with these things but the invention can't be stopped only for us and should not be stopped.


By Surya Prakash Pandey, Solution Architect, Telco, IBM India Pvt. Ltd.  01 12 2010 15:36:30 +0000
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It is just a source of communication, nothing else. Why do we need more than that, I am having a mobile in which sms memory is unlimited and Mp3 is also there, so I am planning to use it for whole life. Why do we need touch screen facility in mobile, it just a complication, nothing else!!!!!
By Sahil Nitin Samant, HR Associate , Cipla Ltd  | 07 26 2010 15:32:37 +0000
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We are not saying to stop the innovations and improvements. But we want a good difference between old and new versions. They need to be game changer king of improvements. Changing the basic features and look can't be called any innovations. When you are changing from 3.2 mega pixel camera to 8-12 MP camera with added new features to capture picture with high quality and low in size, this is called innovation. Just adding a new 12 MP camera can't be called innovations.

Idea is to have gap and remarkable improvement over products over a period of time will be better for manufacturers and consumers/customers.


By Atul Kumar, `Confidential, Confidential  | 01 19 2010 16:08:30 +0000
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Conversations on mobile phones in public is noise pollution and many times irritating in public transport.


By B.G.Jhaveri , Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, Self employed  | 01 15 2010 21:45:08 +0000
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Mobile coversion in public is Noise Pollution,many times irritating in public transport.


By B.G.Jhaveri , Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, Self employed  | 01 15 2010 21:42:43 +0000
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I agree with this argument. Mobile phones should minimize inventing and re-inventing also copying features from one another. I do not see any kind of strong USP(Unique Selling Point) now a days in any latest mobiles. Its better if the focus is more on key functional requirements, increase voice quality(with noise reduction), application performance, faster UI updates, data accessibility etc.

 


By Shivakumar Hosangadi. PMP, Sr. Project Manager, Philips  | 01 13 2010 16:38:31 +0000
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By suman , Consultant, Future Solutions Retail I Ltd  | 01 13 2010 15:29:40 +0000
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I support.


By Vikhil Aggarwal, Test Publisher, Asia Pacific, Pearson VUE  | 01 13 2010 09:16:15 +0000
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standardisation is only way out.


By PRITHVI RAJ DUBEY, Managing Director, RAJ ENGINEERING INDUSTRIES PVT LTD  | 01 13 2010 09:07:08 +0000
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I totally agree with sonal point of view.

 


By Shilpa Jayaram, Marketing - International operations, MNC  | 01 13 2010 08:09:39 +0000
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I am All for it!According to a recent research people get angry and frustrated by the complexity of modern mobile phones. We, experience designers, are stupid… We’ve got the greatest job in the world, full of endless possibilities to make people’s lives better, easier and happier. And we still manage to only make things worse. Read More...


By Teddy Jacob, Freelance Designer, Teddy Jacob  | 01 13 2010 06:39:13 +0000
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a mobile model becomes obscelete within a month creates more e waste

one day mobile and laptaop will merge by another name.


By Ashoka B kalgude, Executive, Biocon India  | 01 13 2010 02:10:34 +0000
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SPECIAL ADVICE TO ALL THOSE WHO SAY NO READ THE ARGUMENT PROPERLY AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT BEFORE COMMENTING ON IT BLINDLY


By sanjay , B.Tech/B.E. student, Bangalore Institute Of Technology, Bangalore  | 01 13 2010 01:00:26 +0000
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I support.


By B.G.Jhaveri , Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, Self employed  | 01 12 2010 23:07:19 +0000
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I agree that we need a spectrum of phones ranging from the "just talk and call" type of phone to the high gizmo web/internet enabled with all the various options of facebook, twitter, yahoo, , google, linkedin, etc incorporated. But I think it is time we deserve a bit of respite from all the deluge of smart phones entering the market. The marketeers should try and hold back and really put in time to develop a good phone, as these phones cost a bundle an then give out one which would really be useful to users ...


By Gagneet Singh, Technical Lead, Yahoo!, Inc.  | 01 12 2010 18:17:56 +0000
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This is important for the mobile manufacturer to have enough gap/break between two model and number of new features before launching in the market. This will help the buyers to get the right hand set after proper analysis of its feature and also help manufacturer to get the possible good return of investment made.

There are number of modile handset are launched, relaunched after simply making few changes in look, OS features and attracts new buyers. Many times such new features are even fooling the customers. The kind of tough compitions in the market is tending each of them to seize the new customer for their products whiout proper application and handset testing. The result, end users suffers. Samsung Omnia is an example of this error.

When there are too many options, you go by Seller/Friends advice and many times end up buying something not required/optimum for your usage. So the society needs a pause in the new brands/series of mobile handsets.


By Atul Kumar, `Confidential, Confidential  | 01 12 2010 16:55:31 +0000
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The debate is good and fence should be clear. This indicates whether, the single phone should support multiple OS. Yes obvious, there are phones which are customized and designed for the OS. This should not happen.

Like in out computer OS, The single hardware will support multiple OS. This also to be in mobile computing. I raise my hands for the same.

I too support the technological advancement in mobiles. But, wish the competition be healthy.

-Yuva(http://Yuvahere.com)


By Yuvaraj , Programmer & Designer, Cognizant Technology Solutions  | 01 12 2010 16:46:32 +0000
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Yes , I do agree with your views. The market is flooded up with so many mobiles that every other day we see a new one. Its actually creating a chaos and severly affecting our young generation with addiction.


By Kanak Baran dass, QA&QC Manager, Pidilite Inds  | 01 12 2010 14:39:21 +0000
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Good debate sonal, I really like the quote from Joaxie wexler there, yes there is too much of activity in mobile phones, as every day some new phone will be released, and people are unable to know what is the difference between different OS that are out there like from Droid to  Android, and telecom network providers are finding it difficult to match the pace from Mobile phone makers, as Infrastructure is not ready at the moment, so companies now should focus on something else apart of OS on Mobile phones, like increasing its features, interms of mobile phones going green than anything else...


By sumitra dutta, Consultant, XYZ  | 01 12 2010 14:02:03 +0000
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If I am seeing AOL Logos broadcasted on this site and other sites and places, and seeing how they did practically owned the Internet(even though it was Dial Up) for several years they are still in business and competing well,how I have yet to know figure out 100%, after Dial Up,Broad Band,Cable,T-1 and above and now Wireless Internet,and now all the new cell phones,brands and cell companies that seem to pop up a daily...... then I think it is more then possible for other companies to keep up just as AOL has. They may have to invest in some new strategies,hire more people or a person that is educated in helping companies learn,educate and compete well in the Technological world that we have all helped maintain and get strong and it only grows stronger every 12 to 24 hours. Its all about who can produce,grow,and be open to and be willing to make better all the new and upcoming possibilities in every industry there is, its 2010 people stop making excuses and start making a difference!


By Brandi Chapman, Freelancer, Teaching/Education  | 10 14 2010 09:35:58 +0000
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“Chaos in the world brings uneasiness, but it also allows the opportunity for creativity and growth.”~ Tom Barrett


By Viktor Stephen, COO, I Entrepreneur  | 07 26 2010 15:39:04 +0000
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Chaos has entered into everything, but rather than fearing from chaos and preventing innovation into mobile tech, it's better to improve the technology of managing chaos.


By Vishwas , -, --  | 07 26 2010 15:01:59 +0000
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Let us remeber the findings of Darwin and what he established : Survival of the fittest. Today's man ( yes women also) is the endresult of constant innovation and up-gradition. May we deny to upgrade ?

If atall we propose " no more phones " who is going to listen ?

Is there any world body to oversee such things ? No. So we are to embrace the new. Have a new set with new OS and technology as and when required and possible.

Further, changes are every where : Automoble, fashion, watch, electronics etc. etc. As cell phones are more and more intregal to our daily life, we are more concerned about this small machine in our hands. Nothing 2be worried for .. new is welcome and may not stopped.


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 03 09 2010 13:36:34 +0000
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Mobile has a long Innovation curve......and as far as communication technology is concern, continuous innovation is the only way to create more and more efficient and useful devices.......


By Nayan Patel, Marketing Manager, Infinium (India) Limited  | 03 09 2010 11:44:25 +0000
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I agree with hemant, passing law is impractical. And he has highlighted an interesting point, every product has its own life cycle so a end will come. There is no need to stop the invention.   


By Leena Pawar, Tech Architect, IT Infotech  | 01 21 2010 12:30:16 +0000
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Its not at all practical to stop inventing mobiles as the technology is booming everyone should go for the latest, to make their work easier.


By Avin , Information Security Engineer, Maveric Systems  | 01 19 2010 13:35:35 +0000
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Well, the good thing about a market economy is if there is chaos in network owing to a glut in supply, order will be set by lowered demand.

There should be no curbs on innovation as long as environmental standards are met.


By Pradeep Nair, Technology Manager, Infosys Technologies Ltd  | 01 18 2010 22:34:18 +0000
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technology keeps on improving one can't stay with the older version ,to match up with the competetors and maintain the level of creativity it's must to adopt a new technology and it's features.


By praveer tewari, B.Tech/B.E. student, u.i.e.t c.s.j.m university kanpur  | 01 14 2010 08:53:27 +0000
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Instead of stopping the innovation, the innovations should be focussed in fiends like education. Mobile technology has bridged the gap in many ways. remember the days when we used to have a phone with a round dial, it was not long ago. When i was young, the entire community had 1 such phone and we used to refer the call as PP call. Today the innovation has given the opportunity to bridge the gap that existing not too long ago. I just hope that Mobile Communication Industry starts to think outside the box, stop inventing just another mobile phone and start focusing on what they could add as a value to the community with make it more affordable.


By Vijay Rajan, Program Manager, Syntel  | 01 13 2010 23:49:01 +0000
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many say halt technology - too many cellphones, too many weapons - and as one who should be the first to agree i will sat please keep going with the technology and innovation for through the discovery of the principles of physics, dynamics etc we are really discovering the inner working of the human body and mind - technology is not about comuters and efficiency - it is about sefl discovery


By ashok hingorani, Founder and CEO, Computact Software  | 01 13 2010 19:51:11 +0000
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Invention is the driver of civilization. There may be n no of mobile phones with different capabilities, but the invention of a new one will always bring out a new technology. A recent study showed that e-mails may soon  be history as new types of communication is coming into play. The infrastructure if unavailable will catch up with upswing of demand. But stopping invention will lead to a death of mobile phones or further developed form of communication in the future.


By sanjay dey, Tax & accounting , Consultatnt  | 01 13 2010 14:41:38 +0000
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Innovation is buzz word and it can helpfull in enhanced features with reduced cost.


By Cyril , Sr. Engineer Business Excellence  | 01 13 2010 14:07:49 +0000
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Innovation and invention cannot be stopped. When invention is stopped, technology growth lacks and number of products lacks. This phenomenon is against to Humans. Human are meant to invent, discover and create things.

 

 


By Pradeep Pantula, Sr. Software Engineer  | 01 13 2010 10:56:52 +0000
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don't stop this new creation of creating new mobile phones that have the feature of access internet with the mobile b'coz when you operate internet in any of the mobile you can easily any computer from your mobile this is helps you lot to do all the required thing in the computer while you are on the road no need to sit in front of your laptops or any desktops

 

according to me give support to this new technologies


By monika computers, providing IT services, Vohra Industries  | 01 13 2010 09:43:10 +0000
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More the competition, more the consumer gets benifeted. In terms of not only money but quality and technology too.


By durgendu , SSE, Rave Technologies (India)  | 01 13 2010 08:22:58 +0000
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The point of debate for yes is valid. But, there have been such problems where some tools were invented and there was no proper hardware or whatever reqd for that. But this doesn't mean that the dependant field should not go ahead with the production.


By Shailesh Dube, Software Developer, Cybage  | 01 13 2010 07:56:05 +0000
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cannot stop innovation - else you would have facebook to debate such issues :-)


By ashok hingorani, Founder and CEO, Computact Software  | 01 13 2010 05:15:55 +0000
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Let me put another perspective here, apart from the technical ones debated. We know that not all product launches are successful, all other smartphones launched in the line of iphone or blackberry are yet to see the same success as these two. I think i will not be wrong in saying that in a few years we will see a lot of new phones being launched and lot of them dying also, this is a natural phenomenon true for any technology industry. Considering this it seems that to stopp the manufacturing and development of new and better phones is not something which is desirable. Market forces will ensure that user friendly and network friendly phones will survive and rest can be remebered as history.


By mayank nagar, Senior Consultant, Capgemini  | 01 13 2010 05:15:19 +0000
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Infrastructure will catch up. OS will hardly be an issue in the time to come and telcom managers will devise better apps to support the OS and the user. The question is : IS IT ESSENTIAL or NECESSARY? How much is ENOUGH?

Thamks for the referral Sonal :)


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 01 13 2010 04:58:11 +0000
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every tech has problems but you cannot / must not stop innovation - else how would you have facebook to carry out such surveys :-)


By ashok hingorani, Founder and CEO, Computact Software  | 01 13 2010 04:48:18 +0000
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I am not saying no, for the sake of saying. Since I too m not a mobile geek and wuld like to stick to simple mobile with basic requirements, my theory is that science drives us to bring abt the best in humans. Technologically how much a human mind can stretch is one of the intriguing thing, hence let the mobiles come in the market with different attributes. Eventually only those ppl who enjoy these features will buy them. As for simple ppl like us we shld not get distracted by new models and concentrate only wht one needs. This way it leaves nothing to argue or feel perturbed about. and who knows in the near future it will be the only way of accessibility sans paper, god forbid! 


By Smita M, Copywriter  | 01 13 2010 04:48:08 +0000
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Well ,what i personally feel ,Change Should Be Always welcomed...........and should be done with a greater force in the case of Mobile  Phone as they have only facilitated our lives .....by all means be it access to knowledge or Mobilty......

The only area of concern is that with these advances in Mobile Industry ...there should be advancement...in measures to avoid the technology used for Illegal/unsocial ..activities . 


By SAURABH THAKUR, SOFTWARE TEST ENGINEER, QA InfoTech  | 01 13 2010 04:40:33 +0000
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stop inventing mobile phones,why?well I am not in favour of it,technology is advancing day by day,and why only mobile phones take a breather when competition in every field is on its extreme level,inventing new mobile phones is a technology advancement and advancement is for betterment and it only gives a tough competition to other competitors and if we talk about prevent mobile inventing,then prevent computers inventing,prevent new technology advancement why is it so?


By kirti , B.Tech/B.E. student, IIMT,college of Engineering ,Greater Noida  | 01 12 2010 19:49:04 +0000
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Stopping invention in any field is not possible and also not desirable.Ultimately more inventions and research will be beneficial to consumers. Any chaos if it seems problematic will automatically disappears as only fittest will be survived .


By Atul Soni, Public Analyst and Laboratory officer  | 01 12 2010 15:26:22 +0000
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How do you propose that "one stop inventing mobile phones"? By passing a law? I think it is impractical to talk about stopping invention in any sphere - it is something that will always continue. What we probably need is more and better standards and more effective enforcement of standardization programs, compliance etc. Every product in every industry has a life-cycle and in its initial stages, there is always a lot of confusion in the marketplace. It is only when there is some kind of stability and standardization that you start seeing a more structured and orderly market, with users who are confident that they know what they want and that they know how to get it and make it work for them. Technology tends to be disruptive and we are seeing that characteristic magnified many times over in the mobile space.


By Hemant Puthli, Founder & Principal, Hemant Puthli Associates  | 01 12 2010 14:42:14 +0000
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Inventing itself means to produce or create as a product of one's own ingenuity, experimentation, or contrivance. So as to my opinion there should be new inventions. 


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