Sayan, As I said they r victims and they and their children need safeguards. No right thinking person can support exploitation of another human being....some kind of framework needs to be worked out, that’s all is my point…. I think there shud not be any moral dilemma there
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Priya Varadan, Independent consultant, Self employed
| 01 15 2010 15:11:27 +0000
Well i think that what is bad in legalizing the prostitution!! Becoz we are educated and since we need to have a sensible attitude towards our ablazing problems and one of them is surely PROSTITUTION!! 1) I think it can better be curbed after legalizing. 2)Why we society watchmen afraid of being it legal,so that we can turn our back and keep silent of this evil. 3)Each and every person knows it cannot be totally prohabitated wether it will be legal or remains illegal!! 4)But once it will be legalized many of the evils attached with it can be controlled! 5)Like policeman,brokers and criminals who use to humilate the prostitutes and also the the person who use to take their service can be controlled!!! 6)Since many of the illminded people scare to take the prostitutes service because its illegal as they scare from police and brokers too and this gives birth of RAPE!! Even you all have read or listen about being raped of small girls even up to age of 3-4 years girls...IS IT LEGAL????? ITS ALL HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THAT CROOKED MINDED PEOPLE SEXUAL DESIRE ARE NOT FULLFILLED DUE TO BECOZ PROSTITUTION IS ILLEGAL!! 7)I CAN BET YOU ALL ONCE THIS PROSTITUTON WILL BE LEGALIZED THE RAPE RATE WILL SURELY COME DOWN!!! 8)Have you ever thought our envoronment will be much better,the girls will be much safer,the spreading of AIDS can be much reduced!!! 9)Now the prostitute wether male or female are they not a part of india?Aren't they citizen of india?they dont have any rights?they dont need security?SHOULD THEY BE BOYCOTTED BECOZ THEY ARE PROSTITUTES?They are only for humilation? YOU SHOULD ACCEPT THIS THAT NOONE BY ITS CHOICE CHOOSE PROSTITUTION AS THEIR PROFESSION,ITS ALL BECOZ SOMEWHERE AND SOMEHOW OUR SO CALLED LEGAL SOCIETY AND ITS EFFECT!!!!!!!!!YOU CANNOT DENY IT!!!!!! 10)AND the matter of legalization.....is it legal for a politician for corruption,policeman and powerfull people for humilation and criminals for crimes???? sorry but i will say then the prostitutes are much better becoz they give their service and keep others legal society daughters much safe in some how and its a great job!!!!I am not supporting prostitution but i am supporting the pity people who are engaged in it somehow!!they are also a human nad have rights and they are also a part of india wether a itiching truth or a ignoring truth!!!!!! LASTLY ITS ALWAZ EASY TO CUT DOWN A RUINED PART OF YOUR BODY BUT A DAY WILL COME WHEN NOTHING WILL REMAIN IN THE BODY.......ON THE OTHER HAND THE PAINFULL BUT EFFECTIVE,KINDFULL AND WISE PART IS TO BE WITH THE RUINED PART AND TAKE CARE OF IT AND TRY TO MEND IT AND THE THE GOLDEN PART IS IF YOU CANT THEN ALSO DONT DISCRIMINATE IT WITHOUT KNOWING THEIR PART OF WOES!!!! SO I THINK LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION WONT BE A MATTER OF OBJECTION!!ITS REALLY A WISE DECESSION!!
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shashi shekhar mishra, Engineer
| 01 13 2010 15:11:02 +0000
Probably you fail to recognise that its not a medical or pschychological problem.... Its a socio - economic aspect which has existed since the humanity has come into existence. Prostitutes were a better lot when prostitution was legal.
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Arinjay Kumar, Administration, BSF
| 01 13 2010 09:22:55 +0000
People who call prostitution a shame, are trying to close their eyes on the fact that prostitution has been existing right since human race has started living in a society. Attaching a feeling of shame is responsible for the deplorable plight of the prostitutes. Legalising the profession will just add a degree of recognition to the prostitutes and also it will allow the govt to implement welfare measures for them . Though it appears crude to talk like this but to an extent, prostitution helps in containing crime against women. True that our culture doesnot permit any relation outside marriage, but still the profession has continued since thousand of years. Its time when we recgnise the fact that the profession cannot be eliminated. Its time to give recognition to the profession so that the taboo attached to it can be done away with. No doubt, its unfortunate that some people from amongst us have to take up this profession. Since we have failed to curb it, atleast we can think of ways to give welfare to the ones who had to take up the profession under whatever circumstance. And legalising it will be the first step in this direction.
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Arinjay Kumar, Administration, BSF
| 01 13 2010 09:14:52 +0000
Sayan, all I said was that the govt. needs to explore options, find solution. majority of them r victims. the police administration and rehab homes hv failed to do their jobs. just by saying this wrong & that is right is not going to solve the issue , right? Supreme court has given a wake up call to Govt., they need to give an answer. let's see what they say.. India is still a welfare state..and hs to do its bit for every section of the soceity.
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Priya Varadan, Independent consultant, Self employed
| 01 13 2010 08:05:36 +0000
@ Sayan sir Perhaps you missed the point sir, no probs, i would explain again. 1. Prostitutes are not criminals (they are victims), but contract killers are. I hope that's not difficult to understand. 2. I support Priya madam's statement and I quote "preaching and moral policing is not going to help the matter. face it, find solutions.". I believe what you are doing is moral policing, if you are that appalled by the situation (which we should be), then please come up with solutions.
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Suvrajit Gangopadhyay, B.E. (Elex. & Comm.)
| 01 13 2010 05:11:55 +0000
Survrajit has said it all, what the supreme court simply want to know, here is a issue. so what the govt. of india, going to do about it? preaching and moral policing is not going to help the matter. face it, find solutions.
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Priya Varadan, Independent consultant, Self employed
| 12 17 2009 12:42:27 +0000
First of all we should understand that - 1. Prostitution can't be stopped, legalizing or not legalizing dosen't matters. 2. Legalizing here means admitting " you exist ", which surely they do and in multitude. So not admitting this is in my opinion hypocrisy.
2. Sex workers (female, male & transgenders) are also humans. 3. They are not criminals but victims. 4. They are severely exploited by the pimps, policemen etc. (seen this with my own eyes). So, if legalizing prostitution would give them some much needed basic rights, which you and me enjoy, then why shouldn't it be legalized ?? In any case we can't stop it. In my opinion Prostitution should be legalized & the sex workers should be provided with awareness and basic health-care from the government. But at the same time human trafficking & related vices should be checked.
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Suvrajit Gangopadhyay, B.E. (Elex. & Comm.)
| 12 17 2009 10:48:36 +0000
"I am sorry to say that it will do more harm than good. Consider a situation that you are having a sister or a daughter do you want her in this profession as you have quoted "In my opinion legalizing such thing as a profession will give sex workers some social status" please be sensible with your answers" your quote! quoting your argument sri. ardhendu pal, i just asked a direct question, instead of beating around the bush, my quote was if it is declared as profession, as other professions like CA,CS,MBA,IIT, Prostitution etc., and if one is having his sister or daughter, which is that compulsion under which one would select his loved one to take the last one? if the answer is yes, i am sorry, you are right, if you are not accepting your loved one to take that as the profession even after the Government, Supreme court declares and passes the judgment? why should we entertain or accept it to some one else's sister to enter into that den? i am very sensibly advocating my argument, but i am sorry to say that there is something wrong in your reading!!
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pruthviraja pande, Film maker, Fascinations communications
| 12 13 2009 13:36:08 +0000
Lets not get too much irritated from people on this side Ardhendu. Look at the elite society, the upper middle class, I am sorry to say to what extent, young generation, including girls, have came forward. You must have heard of rave parties, spouse swapping, group pleasures doesn't all these bullshits exists? Aren't these people educated? We are not advocating for such people here nor we want these all (including prostitution) mishaps to be there in our civil society. But the thing is these are those persons of some families, who came forward to take care of themselves, their children & their other beloveds, putting into stake, the most precious asset one can possess, one's self respect. I think as the responsible citizens of this country, we should debate why we are not still able to provide even food for two times to most of our population? Why people go these far to earn their daily bread? Why this profession is still a part of some of the most developed nations in this world, with some such countries, as per my knowledge, have legalized it? And if at all, we cant change this, what we can do our best to think of their betterment, & to live with it in a more civilized manner?
That's what, I suppose, h'ble judges of the apex court wanted to convey.
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ujjval jain, Retail, Retail
| 12 13 2009 13:03:13 +0000
"When you say it is the world's oldest profession and when you are not able to curb it by laws, does this signify judicial incompetency and Govt’ dysfunction only? We talk about India’s growth, development, soft power, supremacy and then we also say legalize prostitution, when it comes to take the credit, we claim to be Great Indians, we have culture, we have roots whose tip is decayed. And then because few have financial power over the poor and distraught, we rip them and nip them too. And give the blame to Judiciary and govt machinery, but we ourselves are crystal clear with immense value and culture. Long-live Indian hypocrisy. Question, will you employ a sex trade worker to re-establish her in society? If the answer is no, there is no need for any argument, but if the answer is yes, then kindly tell what are steps one should be looking at.
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Shiuli Mukherji, Head Strategy Plan- , Region SEA
| 12 13 2009 11:52:44 +0000
Lets first accept the fact that this age long profession exists in spite of its being not legal, not socially excepted & against the willingness of a sex worker (in most of the cases), that she does not willing to continue with this if provided a suitable alternative for her financial needs. Ok, don't legalize it, anyone cares what a sex worker has to suffer? What she can do if she finds herself a victim? Does she has any legal rights pertaining to her profession? Can she lodge a complaint? Is she able to get out of this on her own? Can she vociferously, without any legal & moral support, fight against those:
1.Who have (as in most cases), bought & brought them against their will into this profession? 2.Who treats them brutally?
3.Exploiting them for being under paid or sometimes even gang raped? 4.Not letting them to go away from this? 5.Persons in police etc (a few of them) misbehaving?
6.Middleman who are eating major chunk of their hard earned remuneration? So, either government has to come forward with some concrete plans to rehabilitate them, curb this social stigma or if it can't do that, lets except this exists & there should be at least some fundamental rights & legality for sex workers as an illegal entity doesn't have any legal rights.
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ujjval jain, Retail, Retail
| 12 13 2009 09:50:00 +0000
I think the Supreme court is right here, legalizing sex trade would be a better option to avoid trafficking of women and children as said by some people here iam agree with them beside this it can make a huge amount of revenue for Indian govt. if only 2 % tax is kept over legal prostitutes then our country can earn a lot which is used for developing us. Bcoz it is a running market supreme court is not starting the market of prostitution court is only making legalized or providing a license and as a rough calculation says that there were more than 1.8 lac prostitutes in mumbai only so it helps in stopping explotation also.
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Shishir Shrivastava, Director, S & S Biotech
| 12 13 2009 06:24:59 +0000
This is India, largest democratic country in the world!In democracy you are free to say anything!!Just imagine when our supreme court is advising to legalize prostitution,few section of the population is objecting it.Do these people want prostitution to continue as illegal?May I ask the same people will they compromise if any of the fundamental right is taken away or denied to them?It's shame on our part ,even after six decades this age old ancient profession is being negleted.Legalizing prostitution is like having licence to improve these downthrown people,we all can fight for their rights.Let us not demand anything illegal democratically.
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c.s.manjunthan , BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER., ENTREPRENEURSHIP
| 12 12 2009 14:09:14 +0000
In my opinion legalizing such thing as a profession will give sex workers some social status that may take some time. But it will stop women and girl child trafficing. We should accept that with such a huge population no law can stop it moreover it will give rise to more cases that will keep our police more busy. Legalizing prostitution as a profession will give some stability to that section of our society and also the right of equality that we always talk about. So, friend don't be afraid to accept and face the truth.
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Navneet Gupta, Software Developer, LISPL, Lucknow
| 12 11 2009 22:42:23 +0000
Prostitution is opted by whom in our society? Is it rich or well to do people in our society?The answere is very simple for any one to guess, infact rich and well to do people are the customers to the prostitutes at the same time we see the sufferings by these prostitutes from all angles, ie,police harrassh them,middlemen squeeze them despite working overtime they make little money in the end of the day.Who care for their health and this profession life is short lived one.This leads to early neglect by our society as compared to retirement age,from here where will they go? nowhere but silently suffer.If prostitution is legalized atleast these prostitutes will get medical benefits and prevented from police harrassment.
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c.s.manjunthan , BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER., ENTREPRENEURSHIP
| 12 10 2009 12:05:28 +0000
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Subhrajit brother, I understand fully what your points are. Hope I am not missing this time from your point of view. 1. Prostitutes might not be criminals but the system of Prostitution which includes brokers, society and opportunist people are the criminals. And I don’t find any difference between those who harm others because of self benefit. Be it touts of prostitutions or women traffickers or contract killers. 2. You are free to support moral policing or immoral policing--that's your choice in this free country. But I chose to stay with moral, you rightly identified me.
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Sayan Chakraborty, Senior ERP Consultant, International Business machines
| 01 14 2010 20:35:58 +0000
Ms Vardhan, I understand what you are saying. This is right that govt and police failed to rehab them...But that doesn't mean we will have to sacrifice what is right and accept what is wrong. 1. The victims will have to be given proper way of earnings. 2. The govt has to do what it is supposed to do. 3. And the society has to guide those whao chosen wrong way...and those misguided includes those who are the clients of prostitutions and the victims as well. Because simply we can not leave the way of good and let wrong win...
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Sayan Chakraborty, Senior ERP Consultant, International Business machines
| 01 14 2010 20:11:27 +0000
This is not a topic I would like to comment on since I am totally against prostitution in a global way. I can never understand why women sell their body for money since there are so many other jobs they can do. I can understand the feelings of the Indians who are opposing the legalization of prostitution. India is one of the most diverse country in the world and while they are good at doing almost everything equally to the rest of the world they could have at least minus the legalization of prostitution. This is only going to add a little more immorality in addition to the culture and values which is slowly diminishing. I once viewed India as a country full of virtuous people where all women were seen as goddess. Today this has become a thing of the past. The western life seem to be taking over.
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Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit
| 01 13 2010 19:27:32 +0000
Ok a big 'NO' I always say people tend to go behind the good sounding argument..but why don't they think the impact? 1) Subhrajit says...Legalizing prostitution will mean we Admit..and actually it does. Then is the next step to legalizing contract killing? because it exists? 2)And Priya Vardhan says: Why to do moral police? Can I ask why is so much hate towards moral police? Why so much support for immoral police? Impact: Prostitution does not result into happy life for those who go for this...so it's duty of the nation to stop this. And legalizing this will not only increase it but also will give free tickets to women trafficing and horrible crimes of that sort...Give it a thought.
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Sayan Chakraborty, Senior ERP Consultant, International Business machines
| 01 12 2010 19:55:36 +0000
Legalizing prostitution means demeaning our culture. Why and for whom it is legalized? If it is to prevent child trafficking, other alternatives could have been identified instead of approving Prostitution a profession. By doing this the Government is instrumental in reinforcing the most malignant of all sins, a woman selling her body to many for money. The Govt. may have realized its potential of contributing to the GDP. The next step would be bringing the sector under taxation. Promoting an easy way of gaining with no risks of economic recession! Shameful but cunning, is it not? A situation of no control over the health and safety of the Country! Remember this is also a violation of law of God!
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Resmi Maxim, GENERAL MANAGER - OPERATIONS, SI PROPERTY (KERALA) PVT.LTD.,
| 12 17 2009 11:51:45 +0000
I support to your point, there is no need of giving any such legalizing or any type of help or support to these kind of people. In my opinion there is no work called sex work and there is no need of such people in our society. Any people in need of such workers and the people doing such works have to undergo some psychiatric treatments. And this trade has to be stopped at once. Otherwise the persons approaching the workers have to marry some one and try to lead a good life to satisfy their needs or better consult a good doctor.
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Resmi.S.C , Supervisor - 4th Dimension , SI Property Kerala Pvt.Ltd
| 12 17 2009 10:11:00 +0000
Exactly why all of the masses started to disrespect women especially in India where women is treated as Laxmi or other godesses even if now-a-days they do westernize in their dressings why can't men have patience? & why are those having patience considered as dull ? if anybody has the answers please help me.........
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 12 15 2009 08:26:56 +0000
Thanx to all of you who are against of it.I also have a thought that govt is whole responsible for what are happenning in society in day-to-day life.As Sarika has said,first SC allowed live-in-relation then homosextuality now prostitution!What actually govt wants to prove?does it want to make our country as western one?Then why various news and talk shows are made on these fronts still?which means after prostitution being legalised,there should be no case of rape in any court.Is'nt it?then where is the security lies for women?why women has been accused for being raped sometimes because of her attitude,her dreesings?because behind all these indulgence of govt prevails.
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roumi chatterjee, asst commercial executive, century plyboard india ltd
| 12 15 2009 08:01:02 +0000
What? Social Status for a sex worker Blah! you must be joking if it is then a bad joke sorry. Even if the government legalizes or even provider them with all felicities of a government employee (which they are going to demand when they will be legalized) then also the social status will remain the same.
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 12 15 2009 07:03:49 +0000
WE are from the major part of this society that is the middle class and any type of law or bill that is passed or introduced affects this class the upper or the lower have a least lookout so if you are from upper I appeal you to come forward if you are from middle class then I urge you to join hands & if you are from lower which I think you are not then also I request you to be with me what role suits you the best?
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 12 13 2009 10:58:34 +0000
That is it what I wanted to say Pandeyji as I think ki abhi khulke hi bolna parega everybody in this discussion is an indian so hindi me hi bolo ki kya tum ek professional legal randi ka beta kehlana chahoge? ya tum apne behen ka introduction doge ki "Ye meri behen hai ye doctorate in raandbaazi me Gold Medalist hai"? ya apne betiyon ko inistitute of legal raandbaaz me bharti karna chahoge? Arrey mere deshwasiyon sudher jao Jaag jao abhi bhi bahut der nahi hui hai Mere aur hum sabke watan ka bhawishye sudhar nahi sakte to use bigarne ka tumhe haq nahi hai socho aur batao ki meine jo future abhi se dekha hai kahin usme galat hu to batao, mein jaanta hoon ki nahi hoon mein galat ghar ya office me baithkar hum aur aap faisla nahi kar sakte mein suggest karunga ke ek baar unki condition apni aakhon se dekh loge to phir ye legalization ka bhoot sar se utar jayega aap logo me kuch to hafte me 500 rupiya to cigarette ya sharab me barbad kar dete hoge usme se agar thora sa aap kisi NGO ko daan kar dete ho to kya bigrega meine khud ye sab chor diya hai sirf isi wajah se taki mein khud thik rehkar thore paise bachaker usme se daan karu...... Thank you
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 12 13 2009 10:06:21 +0000
At time I am ashamed to call myself as Indian, the government which is tolerating some spending more than Rs. 1,200 Crores on installing one's statue, the same funds can be provisioned or utilised in rehabilitating the worst and painful living conditions of the sex workers. kindly look into the eyes of those prostitues, no one does it with joy and glory, it is un-expressable pain and sad circumstances which compel them to enter into that dirty den? Even a male who visits the sex worker for pleasure, no one cares about her feelings or state of living, every one expects what they can experiment or get the best value for their money. but let us not forget, she is also a complete women like one's mother, sister, wife, daughter or girlfriend with heart, feelings, dreams and got only one life as all of us got? try to rehabilitate her instead of destroying and assassinating the character, Of course i do not have dare to ask those men who visits sex workers "would they not remember their loved ones at that moment when they are with the sex workers?". We came from very cultured and fine tuned traditional background, let us not further rape the one who is already dead? it is better to rehabilitate them instead of legalising the agony and pain? unfortunately either the ruling government or the supreme court is not looking into the fact as they are suppose to? It is always the people who can change?not the government, if i ask you straight, if the prostitution is also a profession like Chartered Accountant, Doctor, MBA? what would we prefer when we want to send our own family members? what do you think? which profession is better?Please select-we have answer!!
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pruthviraja pande, Film maker, Fascinations communications
| 12 13 2009 07:20:32 +0000
I am sorry to say that it will do more harm than good. Consider a situation that you are having a sister or a daughter do you want her in this profession as you have quoted "In my opinion legalizing such thing as a profession will give sex workers some social status" please be sensible with your answers
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 12 12 2009 10:30:46 +0000
@ Ardhendu Not only Sarika, But even I am with you Ardhendu. Its so unfortunate that our government, one one hand talks about women upliftment but on the other hand takes these kind of decision. I ask, what kind of woman uplifment is being done by legalising prostitution. What kind of social respect they are going to provide us by this? By legalising these, now, cases of small girls kidnapping will increase by prostitution mafias who sell them. Government did not do any help to us rather they have created more problem for the woman society now.It seems India is going to become the second Amsterdam very soon... @ Kawaljit Nice reply Kawaljit. Its time, we women have to fight for our rights in this animalic society....
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Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates
| 12 11 2009 05:44:08 +0000
What is the supreme court trying to do? Is Legalizing prostitution gonna help to curb it? Or is it gonna protect the women in prostitution? Why is the supreme court trying to promote the sex industry?? If prostitution is legalized then India for sure will be a major prostitution Hub.There could be a possibility that more women may be pushed or exploited into the profession. Our country which is fully drowned in bureaucracy and corruption will use this chance to mint more money. Legalizing might bring more hard cash for the government but I don’t think it will reach the women involved in prostitution. Rather legalizing prostitution the government can try to help them by providing some other work. If the NREGA is really helping the people by providing them Rs.100 per day for their work I don’t think there will women who involve themselves in prostitution just for sake of money. It must help them realize that they are capable of living without selling their bodies. The supreme court can focus on reducing the trafficking that is prominent in many parts of our country.
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sandhya , systems engineer, Infosys Technologies
| 12 11 2009 05:34:42 +0000
What is the supreme court trying to do? Is Legalizing prostitution gonna help to curb it? Or is it gonna protect the women in prostitution? Why is the supreme court trying to promote the sex industry?? If prostitution is legalized then India for sure will be a major prostitution Hub.There could be a possibility that more women may be pushed or exploited into the profession. Our country which is fully drowned in bureaucracy and corruption will use this chance to mint more money. Legalizing might bring more hard cash for the government but I don’t think it will reach the women involved in prostitution. Rather legalizing prostitution the government can try to help them by providing some other work. If the NREGA is really helping the people by providing them Rs.100 per day for their work I don’t think there will women who involve themselves in prostitution just for sake of money. It must help them realize that they are capable of living without selling their bodies. The supreme court can focus on reducing the trafficking that is prominent in many parts of our country.
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sandhya , systems engineer, Infosys Technologies
| 12 11 2009 05:26:29 +0000
lolz.lolz .lolz.lmaoz...its sheer humbug i mean there aren't any sensible laws to enforce if authorities really wants to uplift women then bring laws for equal treatment at work,enforce a system protecting them from physical violence suffered by them on every street corner ,make provisions for necessary education of a girl child(so that they don't have to rely on such derogatory profession to earn..)there is no self respect in being a prostitute in sociey like ours .
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kawaljit kaur, pgdbm student , Mount Carmel Institute of Management
| 12 10 2009 16:19:11 +0000
Now honorable Supreme Court must also Legalize the Kidnapping, Rented Murder, Sale of drugs............ and so on as I think there is a limit to tolerate. Its ok that we have tolerated the prank on nature to legalize the homosexuality now this is not to be tolerated as this is the limit to tolerate as a civilized society has some norms so those must be respected by the court. Here is an appeal to Mr Yash Singh that if this profession is old so the kidnapping, murder and sale of intoxicants so do you really feel it to be legalized ........... Thank you
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 12 10 2009 11:53:57 +0000
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