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Created by : Isha Verma, Sales/BD Manager, Larsen & Toubro  | 06 28 2008 06:10:53 +0000
Industry : Industrial Products/Heavy MachineryFunctional Area : India(Markets)
Keywords : NANO Boon TATA'S Bane
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Tata's Nano = People's car. It is one of the greatest engineering achievements and a good example of how engineering can do wonders for the common man.

What's your take on the people's car?
 
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on the international level an Indian industrialist bringing out the cheapest and ecofriendly car is something we should cherish our achievements.   But todays politicians dont give importance to reality and it is a shame that our own country man is not allowed to start an industry in West Bengal leave alone othe multinationals.   We respect Ratan Tatas efforts towards uplifting the image and life of the people of India.  Has Mamata Banerjee uplifted any of the farmers in West Bengal so far or only shouting for upliftment and holding everyone at ransom  at the cost of Indian taxpayers . Why Bengal do not want to industrialise and grow like any other states in India.  Any one who has a vision for India should honour Mr Ratan Tata for his wonderfull Nano car project.
By RANJAN ARULAPPA, CEO/MD/Director, BARCO- MARINE ENGINEERS & CONSULTANTS  09 27 2008 05:05:15 +0000
 
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while my heart goes for the nano, my head does not take at all the hype surrounding it on face value. Tata's are good at making trucks, but thay have not yet mustered the class attained by japanese car makers. Proof of it is in indica, safari models made by them. No comparison w.r.t fit, finish, performance, handling etc. My new indica 2007 zeta model developed electrical problem within two months and I had to retune it totally by the service center. The doors side plastic trims came out in eight months and the X of the Logo XETA has also fallen off while driving. You want me to believe about the nano and its performance. With such engineering expertise at their disposal, Sorry folks my vote is not for nano, though my heart may be wanting it.
By Saswata Maulik, Leading third party certification audit teams; faculty for Internal quality audit and QMS awareness training programs, TUV India Pvt Ltd  09 30 2008 16:05:51 +0000
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u r right and nice
By prabhat dubey, Director, Premier Institute Of Technology  | 12 07 2010 09:25:10 +0000
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Tata showed the way ... now other world car makers are following. Others are also launching such "small cars".

What does it mean ? That they are the pioneer - world is ready to accept this fact. Being an Indian ... we may equally be proud. Only one person in India .. ( in WBengal ) thinks opposite. But ... she may not ignore Tatas alltogether - might ask Tatas participation in Rly projects.

If, any way, there remains hurdles for Nano in India ( like ... good roads, congestation on  roads, fuel scarcity and cost, people's earnings, donation to political parties  etc etc ), this car is in great demand in other countries equally. India may export whole lot of Nano.


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 03 30 2010 18:19:14 +0000
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i think it is boon ,because some middle class people as well as marginal peoples whose interest takes car is fulfill by NANO so as point of view tata focusing on lower segment people to attract them


By TUSHAR , TERRITORY EXECUTIVE, TAFE PVT.LTD. CHENNAI  | 09 17 2009 06:44:15 +0000
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Right , but i feel ( dont know if we would come to it) , infrastructure and things will change as more or less with ULCC and LCC it becomes a necessity. Many will definitely love what they can afford and will come to stand up the necessity as demand. Being in a democratic country it is not impossible , though a slow process.


By malikireddy , Controls systems Team Manager., VESTAS Wind Systems A/S.  | 06 11 2009 20:38:24 +0000
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energy efficiency, transportation and traffic jams
PLEASE  EDIT  JUMBLED  DATA


By m a umapathy, Engineering Manager, hub Fatts Engr Singapore  | 04 18 2009 14:48:45 +0000
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TATA  NANO  600 KG  33 HP      110 KMPH   20 KMPL   CO2e 116 G/KM     $ 3000
ANDY  NANO  600 KG  33 HP      220 KMPH   67 KMPL   CO2e 34 G/KM       $ 3000
ANDY  NANO  600 KG  16.5 HP   110 KMPH  220 KMPL  CO2e 10.5 G/KM   $ 2800


By m a umapathy, Engineering Manager, hub Fatts Engr Singapore  | 04 18 2009 14:47:22 +0000
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well ofcourse a boon, i appreciate people coming out with some negative concerns related to nano like pollution, traffic, parking etc.

let me explain it some how like this, look in the history looooong back, people didn't plan their future rather they adapted, if 5000 years of human civilization is getting along with the scientifc measures, and entire genome og homosapian is following that, then lets accpet this.

1." Need mentors adaptation" we often hear people talkign about natural imbalnce of our ecosystem, simultenously we do listen scientifc expeditions overcoming this imbalance, i mean man is taking care when ever its needed, and if there need develops for issues like, traffic, pollution those i am sure will be curbed.

2. "Diminishing social gap" our indian society if suffering several consequences of irelevent differences like religion, cast etc, unnoticingly one more gap which is most severe and dangerous to our sosical and economical growth is the gap of rich and poor, and car symbolises that affluency, there for nano will definitily reduce this gap, and will help people to stand together and confident.

3." Acumen ship to indain industries" we are considered as developing nation, which states we are behind soem developed nations, to elaborate that reflects our inability to produce first but here in case of nano, we are the first to produce car at this cost, therefor it will add to indian prestige of producing better and before


By Nagpal Singh, Sales and Business Development, Babel Group of companies  | 04 18 2009 05:48:50 +0000
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This is a novel concept, which will bridge a gap beteen two wheeler & car segment.

It will revolutionize both segments, and will force the players in both segments to think hard, innovate and do something different, if they have to be in reckoning in this competitive age. In long run, it will prove beneficial for industry as well as for customers.

This will also add as a export opportunity.

However one word is a caution. Simlutaneous to Nano revolution, problems of road traffic, inadequacy of infrastructure and enovironment pollution should be addressed. 


By Prakash Saitwal, Technical Support Manager, Aditya Birla Management Corporation P. Ltd.  | 03 21 2009 13:49:33 +0000
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The Nano is certainly a breakthrough in the automobile sector bringing the car within the reach of the common man. It was earlier tried by maruti also in 1984 when the peoples car was priced at Rs.40,000. However one should try to analyse as to how much power is required to transport 4 passengers. We see normal scooters and bikes with only 100 cc engines having a side car and 3 to 4 people easily commuting in the same. The performance of the vehecals also with this load comes to around 40 to 50 kmpl. which is not bad considering the cost and fuel consumption of the nano or any other small car for that matter. The emphasis should be on light weight body.aerodynamic design and minimum resistance to wind pressures. I am sure that with alloy wheels fiber glass body and the shape of a egg which has the strongest impact resistance on the nose the floor curved to give maximum lift a car can be designed with a 300cc engine max at a price of not more than Rs.50,000. It is possible only we have to apply ourselves. The problem with the Tata brand of cars is that they come out with a model which if it fails commercially or due to a faulty transmission the model is discontinued leaving the customer with a car with no resale value due to nonavailability of partsIs Ratan Tata listening.


By ashok kumar puri, Head/VP/GM-Production/Manufacturing, Karrimore Conveyor Systems Pvt.Ltd.  | 03 11 2009 16:12:50 +0000
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The Nano could be a common man's car in the future of India, I believe. In Indian conditions our aim should be to have car and fuel at affordable costs to the Indians in general.


By Ganta Achuthan Sripathy, Proprietor , Sripathy Consultancy Services  | 03 01 2009 10:41:23 +0000
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As our workforce get younger (can afford car early in life), offices sprung up in suburb (thus requiring longer commute), fuel get dearer and less in availability (India inport a whole lot of it), It makes sense for a second people CAR to hit the market (post Maruti Suzuki) phenomenon.

Also it will help popularize, car ownership in the tier 2 cities.

Though in future if the phenonmenon, which looks like becoming a hit....they have to consider about alternate fuel technology also.


By Sanjay Chaudhary, Former GM-Global Business, Reliance Communications Limited  | 02 28 2009 10:37:22 +0000
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DO  YOU  KNOW  THAT

TATA NANO IS CONSUMING   5.5 Lit FUEL/HOUR'

WHEREAS NORMAL USE FOR 630 CC ENGINE IS ONLY   3.15 Lit/HOUR

HENCE WASTING 5.5-3.15= 2.35 Lit/HOUR    AT 5 HOURS, 360  DAYS RUN

TATA  NANO  IS  WASTING 2.35*5*360 = 4230 Lit/Year  FUEL

COSTING@40/L = Rs 1,69,200 PER YEAR

AVOIDABLE 

CO2e  IS   4230*2.325/1000=  9.83  Ton/YEAR/  TATA  NANO CAR

AT   5,00,000  PRODUCTION    PER  YEAR

EXCESS   CO2e  BY  TATA  NANO   9.83*500000 = 4.9  Mn TON/YEAR


By andyappan , TRANSPORT DESIGNER, ADROIT  | 10 14 2008 01:50:34 +0000
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By N.siva , Tech Support Engineer, INET POWER SYSTEMS  | 10 13 2008 05:50:35 +0000
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....TATA  NANO  IS  WORST  DESIGNED

 TON*KMPL  

TATA  NANO   0.6*20 = 12   ;   M 800       1*16= 16  ;   ESTEEM  1.3*16 = 20.8

AMBASSADOR  2*14 = 28  ;   BUS      20*5 = 100

FUEL  5.5  Lit/Hour  AGAINST  3.15 L  FOR  630 CC @ 5 Lit/Hr/1000 CC NASP

TATA  NANO   FUEL  Lit/KM/TON = 5.5/12=0.46  AGAINST   3.15/21= 0.15  NORMAL

CO2e   G/KM/TON   2325/12= 194   AGAINST  2325/21=110   NORMAL


By andyappan , TRANSPORT DESIGNER, ADROIT  | 10 12 2008 10:16:14 +0000
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It is nice to see that after the Maruti  Suzukis the TATAs are bringing out an economical car at India. Kudos to them
By Ganta Achuthan Sripathy, Proprietor , Sripathy Consultancy Services  | 10 10 2008 13:57:26 +0000
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Having being part of Tata Group, I could be little biased in stating argument in favor Nano. The single more important achievement for Nano even without coming on streets is  - it has put India Auto industry on Global map. One of my friends during his recent visit to US was surprised to hear an immigration officer saying - "So.. you come from Nano country".

From business perspective, its a leap of faith to develop and design products which break price points by miles. Do we know Tatas are now rated as one of top 10 companies worldwide on Innovation. My heart goes out to those engineers (all of them Indians) who have spent days, months and years designing this product and now praying to see it come out of factory. The issues of poor  / marginalized farmers are not specific to Singur - are we forgetting Vidarbha and many other villages where dirty politics only create noise but rarely solve any problems.


By mayank pandey, National Warehouse and Customer Service Manager, BP Group - Castrol India  | 10 07 2008 08:22:41 +0000
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..............NANO      M800         A200

KMPL       20              16          110

..............Ton-kmpl      12              16            66 

..............Ratting        POOR      MEDIUM    BEST


By andyappan , TRANSPORT DESIGNER, ADROIT  | 10 07 2008 01:26:59 +0000
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it is again a result of the passion of an individual to help the common man  his dream come true. It is an engineering innovation which will go in the history of automobile industry.Thanks Isha.
By Bhuneshwar Ram Tripathi, Head/VP/GM-Production/Manufacturing, Bhatia International Ltd.  | 09 29 2008 13:41:03 +0000
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Its people car,and this project is Purely indian design and the parts are from our country.We should proud on our capability .
By Mahalingam Sitaraman, Head/VP/GM-Production/Manufacturing, Minda Valeo  | 09 12 2008 23:24:26 +0000
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It's another revolution in automobile (car industry) now similar to what we saw few years back in Telecom. Tatas made the lower and middle class people enjoy luxury to some extent.

 


By Giribabu Vislawath, Senior Software Developer, Mentor Graphics  | 09 11 2008 20:48:03 +0000
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it's really a achivement only. Because now A days bikes are costing near to that rate. So people's in middle level will love to buy it.

 


By raj sundar, Asset Operations/Documentation-Executive/Manager SVM AUTOPRODUCTS  | 09 07 2008 06:46:16 +0000
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boon to world and bane to tata,s
By asif , Tech Support Engineer infinity engineering solutions  | 08 29 2008 00:15:02 +0000
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its good cheap and well known example of engineering goods used in human life


By Jaspal Sohal, Mechanical Engineer-Plumbing/Fire Protection blk lifestyle ltd.  | 08 28 2008 06:15:39 +0000
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It is boon for in the country. The employment generation it has cascading effect. The investments also go up in the ancillary units to meet the demand.
By Mallikarjuna Gupta Bhogavalli, Sr. Product Manager, Oracle India Pvt Ltd  | 08 04 2008 20:26:44 +0000
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When  everyone was giggling to see how TATA can venture in a passenger car project, it did it and has overswayed the competitors  in southern states ;b;y INDICA  One thing they should not forget is to maintain the price  not  like the old promise for maruthi Starting from 58 k to 2.3 lakhs
By sankararanarayanan Balakrishnan, Factory Head Prabha Auto Products  | 07 10 2008 20:15:42 +0000
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It is an engineering marvel.It all depends on how we take this.If the common man can afford the car,this is a boon.In the crowded places because of size it is more conveinient to park.
By Anil Tadmari, Head/VP/GM-Corporate Planning/Strategy, MACCAFERRI  | 06 30 2008 02:36:37 +0000
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Well technologically, I feel Nano is a wonder car. No doubt it has redefined the way we look at small cars but the same time I am skeptical that the Nano will spawn a new debate about manufacturing methods, use of materials, energy efficiency, transportation and traffic jams. What do you think...

 


By Isha Verma, Sales/BD Manager, Larsen & Toubro  | 06 28 2008 06:10:53 +0000
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CALL  TO ALL BOONs !

COMPARE THREE DATA  OF  TATA  NANO   WITH  OTHER  CARS , 2 W  

FUEL/Hr= KMPH/KMPL=110/20=5.5 Lit/hr

HP/FUEL-HOUR               33/5.5= 6.0

FUEL/HOUR/1000 CC     5.5/0.624=8.814

TON-KMPL                        0.6*20= 12


By appan , Freelancer, Freelancer  | 04 02 2010 12:08:52 +0000
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TATA  NANO  600 KG 110 KMPH, 33 HP/ 624 CC 
20 KMPL, FUEL 5.5 Lit/Hr CO2e  92 T/Yr
ANDY  NANO  600 KG 120 KMPH, 33 HP/ 200 CC

120 KMPL, FUEL 1.0 Lit/Hr CO2e 17 T/Yr

FUEL  WASTED = 5.5-1= 4.5 Lit/hr= 16,400 Lit/Yr  [ 10 Hr/DAY]
EXTRA FUEL COST  = 16400*50= Rs 8,10,000 /Yr
COST  SAME 
EVEN AFTER THIS STATEMENT  , SUPPORT TO TATA NANO IS ....
EVEN GOD CAN'T HELP

CHALLENGE    1 Mn$  1 Yr CHENNAI. INDIA

THIRD PARTY FINANCE CONTROLL


By appan , Freelancer, Freelancer  | 03 31 2010 01:43:32 +0000
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if we could produce 10 lakhs vehicles per year and they could be sold in india.

it would mean so much employement.

the government would have to increase the infrastructure that it self would mean more employement.

you would need more parking space that would mena more parking lots to be created that would mean more employment.

you would need service centers that would means more employment.

you would need more spare parts that woul dmean mor e factories and more employment.

you would need more power and fuel that would mena more employment.

it could make inter city business possible..it woul dmake intracity business possible.indians are very innovative when it comes to making the asset work optimistically..small vendors could carry goods say sixty to seventy km or upto 100km deliver it or sell it and come back.

like many dairy people carry it on sccoters..many things would change when there is availability of affordable travel alternatives.

it could create a huge economic miracle beyond our expectation.

provided it is worth the quality.  tata na no if is goes indica way would become na no na no.tata have definately not made a mark in the passenger vehicle segment.may bethey should have a team of people who are freshers and do not carry the legacy and mind set of  a truck builder.

they have made a huge hype and advertisement management on one lakh price tag..well it is minimum of 142000 for base model.

at this price many second hand maruti 800 in perfect conditions would be available may be reconditioned maruti 800 and other model would be available at much cheaper rates..so it the quality of a new tata nano is a no match to a reconditioned maruti 800 or other models of cars they are available in plenty..then it is just a hype..

ultimately it would be the cost of travel and cost of maintainance and the quality in th elong run which would decide who is the winner..


By sandesh saboo, Research Associate/Analyst, saboo associates  | 06 11 2009 13:57:04 +0000
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totally agree with siddharth here, with the car being so cheap it is going to make traffic conditions in India much more worse, i have complete respect Mr. Ratan Tata as he is only person who is thinking of middle class people whenever he comesup with a product, making it available for them, but with Nano i guess there will be more traffic jams and no parking space at all, with most of the two wheelers now going for nano, then the time to travel for office from house will take very long hours, even though Nano was  a great concept, but Infrastructure in India is not ready for something like this.......


By Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  | 06 04 2009 08:41:46 +0000
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The Nano is a mixed bag. It would be unfair to call it a bane. But at the same time one needs to be logical about it rather than just emotional about it being an Indian car.


No doubt the Nano is a technological achievement for Tatas and India, and we can be proud of it. Yet, the consequences of introducing the Nano can not be ignored. At a time when traffic jams are going out of control, is it wise to introduce a car which even people riding two wheelers will purchase and use making traffic jams even worse?  The reality is that we need to curb traffic. In fact, I would propose that cars be taxed more heavily so that less people buy cars. There is no other solution to the worsening traffic jams. Making more roads or widening them is not the solution. They can never keep pace with the increasing traffic, specially in metropolitan cities.


By Dr. Siddharth Varma, Professor, International Management Institute  | 06 04 2009 07:00:22 +0000
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PLEASE  GO  THRU  OTHERS  VIEW
IGNORING IS  ESCAPISM


By m a umapathy, Engineering Manager, hub Fatts Engr Singapore  | 04 18 2009 14:33:33 +0000
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energy efficiency,POOR  20  KMPL  X  35  KMPL  FOR 624 CC  ENGINE, 600 KG, VDF 2
transportation   TON.KMPL =  21  AGAINST  12  =06*20
traffic jams       INEVITABLE
EXCEES  FUEL   COST  INR 1.69 LAC
EXCESS  CO2e  9.8 T/Yr


By m a umapathy, Engineering Manager, hub Fatts Engr Singapore  | 04 18 2009 14:32:27 +0000
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It will only add to traffic congestion in our cities. We will have more Nanos occupying road space instead of two wheelers
By Nagasundaram , Partner/Principal/VP, SR Spectral Dynamics  | 10 05 2008 07:02:23 +0000
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Well, when it's really prestigious for us to know that indegeneous development of nano yielded with as proud. I personally dont feel that low end car should hit Indian roads. The city like bangalore, mumbai, calcatta are already flooded with the pollution and cops can't control the traffic. By introducing the small size car with low price will increase the trend of buying more cars. The situation would finally end up with every family wil have morethan two scootors and one car bare minimum because of the price fall.

There are other ways to think, i mean that these small size cars should be introduced in India with the regulations and should concentrate on the overseas business, by the way we would also proud being a part of it.


By siva ram, Sales/BD Manager, Oracle India  | 09 20 2008 02:07:07 +0000
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What revolution it will bring India still does not have a concrete solution to handle the traffic. Add the Nanos and the roads will choke. At least now engineers will try to design newer/better car parking systems...

By Abhijeet Kadian, Sales/BD Manager, Bharat Heavy Electricals  | 09 13 2008 00:41:36 +0000
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It will only benefit Tata's, we should not forget that this can aggravate our traffic jams and burden to our infrastructure which is in a poor state. Thereafter India has to spend lot on importing OIL. Almost 2-3 times what it does now. Their will be huge pent up in demand for petrol. And definitely Safety issues will crop up.
By Abhijeet Kadian, Sales/BD Manager, Bharat Heavy Electricals  | 09 09 2008 06:57:42 +0000
 
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