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Created by : Yash Singh, Coresspondent, Star  | 11 20 2009 14:42:30 +0000
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Sachin Tendulkar became the first man to complete 30,000 runs in international cricket with a match-saving innings for India against Sri Lanka in Ahmedabad. Setting records has become commonplace for Tendulkar, with every innings building on an immense personal monument. He is the all-time leader for runs and centuries in both five-day tests and one-day internationals. He has reached 30,000 runs in all forms, with his closest rival, Ricky Ponting of Australia, still 6,000 behind.


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His latest triumph came in the week when he celebrated 20 years as an international cricketer. At 36, still fit, in form and evidently still hungry he has power to add further achievements. So what do you think guys, Is sachin the greatest player of cricket, I mean in 1 to 10, Is he the Number 1 player of cricket in cricketing history? I guess there will be many who might not agree with me on this, as cricket has seen many like sachin from other countries who have done really well in cricket. Do share your views people.

 
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I think Sachin is someone like, God of cricket, sachin who started at a very young age has carried the same hunger for playing cricket for India, which something we don't see in current set of players across the world, that is something which can one learn from him, earlier in the 90's it was something like the opposition only played against one man and that was sachin the whole country would be counting on sachin to deliver every time, and he took that responsibility very well and performed to his optimum and excelled really well as a player, and he was also a good learner from his mistakes, that is why he is always on top of his game, and scored so heavily all these years, and records speaks for itself, I think everybody who knows cricket will agree with me that Sachin is the greatest player of all time nobody will  ever be able to overtake his records, as we won't find that kind of dedication towards a sport like him from any others, I would like to go on and say, not only cricket but he is also the greatest sportsperson that one will see in a millenium, Tendulkar is a Legend and he will be remembered forever. Hope I am not being carried away here..but then that is kind of response he generates from cricket lovers across the world.


By Yash Singh, Coresspondent, Star  11 20 2009 14:45:01 +0000
 
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Mr Suraj Dev Singh, this is only a debate, no need to get annoyed. Everyone is entitled to his or her views regardless if it is right or wrong.

I have held a leather ball but never played that form of the game and I am by no means a cricketer. However, this does not prevent me from making my comment. I am a cricket fanatic having followed the game since I was 12 years old.I probably saw the first run Sachin Tendulkar scored in all forms of the game. In India you are free to honour Sachin and gave him whatever praises he deserve and though he could be rated one of the best cricketers India has ever produced, by global standards he is not the greatest player of cricket but one of the greats. Having scored the highest numbers of runs in test cricket does not make you the greatest of them all.

In the Caribbean, Brian Lara is called the Prince of the Caribbean but not prince of the world. No one has yet beaten his individual Test batting record of 400 not out. His previous record was broken and he was able to rehold that record...this is class. Shivnarine Chanderpaul, my countryman(Guyana) last year held the number one postion  and was given.. the International Cricket Council (ICC) 2008 Cricketer Of The Year Award. ... By any standards none of these two are the greatest but may make the list of 1 to 10.

Sachin is indeed great in his own way...and will make the 1 to 10 list....but not the greatest player.

There is no measurement to judge....lots of good cricketers with unique talents.


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  11 24 2009 22:13:24 +0000
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It is need not to be a matter of discussion at this moment. I and everyone who love cricket do believe that Sachin is a Greatest cricket player. I don't say he only is the Greatest one, but he is a greatest player. I have seen the comments added by Mr.Ardhendu Pal. If you believe that cricket is a game of the utmost lazy people, then please dont comment so authentically not knowing or researching about the Cricket.
By Muhammed jabir rifai, Graduate in Mechanical Engineering  | 05 31 2011 03:09:55 +0000
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Yes. Ofcourse.
By anuradha , Education Coordinator, A to Z Technologies  | 05 31 2011 01:57:23 +0000
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Sachin is the best in many aspects. The amount of runs he has scored in all forms of the game. The fitness he has maintained over the years. The popularity and the number of fans he has, his sheer personality because of which he is respected throughout the cricketing and non-cricketing world. To decide the best we should consider all these aspects and in that he certainly has an edge over all his contemporary cricketers and that is why he is regarded as GOD. No doubt about it.
By Mohan Murari, Marketing Manager, Confidential  | 05 28 2011 09:01:05 +0000
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First of all, I think it is wrong to judge people from different era so amongst the contemporary cricketers, I think Sachin is quite close to being number 1. The number of runs is a factor, the conditions under which the runs were scored another. The main reason why I think his position as #1 will always be debated because of the impact index. His impact index has not been as good as he would have liked it to be. But being a Sachin fan, I am willing to ignore that because of all the great moments this little master has given us in last 21 years.
By Ajay Joshi, President & CEO, ERP Consultants India  | 01 31 2011 10:06:34 +0000
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yes who have doubt about schin pls if any body agians this pls take bat and start plying and brak sachins record pls think practicaly yes if sachin win wc2011 then we will have but sachin is gret batsman evr ever forever pls i requst to all indians pls pray for him bcz if sachin play well then world cup will in india
By pramod dhobale, sampling co ordinator, bombayrayonfashionltd  | 01 31 2011 08:48:04 +0000
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I CAN'T SAY THIS IS MIRICAL BUT THIS IS PROUD FOR EVERY INDIAN,BECAUSE IS BELONG FROM INDIA.SO WE CAN FEEL PROUD.
By UBAIDUR RAHMAN KHAN, SHE LEADER, PLANT LECTRICAL & INSTRUMENTATION PTE LTD, SINGAPORE  | 10 16 2010 06:56:09 +0000
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yes he is a fantastic player and a good hard worker and inspiration to all of us


By ramya , B.Tech/B.E. student, Mepco Schlek Engineering College, Sivakasi  | 09 28 2010 12:31:21 +0000
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Who is underestimating the other ones kavitha mam

debate is for that sachin is greatest of all

he has proved himself in all the formats of cricket

whether it is test one day or 20-20

first to score 200 in one day

the most successful captain in ipl

ms. devi must set parameter to decide the greatness of player


By suraj dev singh, B.Tech/B.E. student, Jai narain college of technology,bhopal,M.P.  | 04 08 2010 05:43:35 +0000
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miss devi,

i havent deleted my comment 

i think it was done by the starter of debate

well i am rigid to say that sachin is greatest ever

you may see his consistent performance in the 20-20 ipl format too.

being a captain he has led his team on the top.


By suraj dev singh, B.Tech/B.E. student, Jai narain college of technology,bhopal,M.P.  | 04 08 2010 05:38:07 +0000
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Mr. ardhendu, despite being a manager you are addressing like a child.

can you sign an agreement without seeing it with closed eyes.i think you have done a lots of practice of signature and you are a master of this.

well every match is a new thrill,sachin is not eklavya who hits by hearing the sound of ball,he can do it but you have to replace the lather ball with a jhunjhuna ball.

i think you would be agree with me na....................


By suraj dev singh, B.Tech/B.E. student, Jai narain college of technology,bhopal,M.P.  | 04 08 2010 05:35:13 +0000
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Hi Everyone,

 

Perhaps i was not here in India and I did not about this debate but when this debate is for Master Blaster Sachin i could not stop my self to contribute.

Some what Mr Pranay & Ms Devi both are correct in thr statement. Sachin is a greatest batsman in this world had ever seen. And if we will talk about Mr Sunil Gavaskar, Mr Kapil Dev, Mr Brain Lara everyone is contribute very much to this game called Cricket. But i and we never forget that these famous players admit and supporting Sachin 


By Amarjeet Sinha, Marketing Associate, Beyond Blue Advisory  | 03 31 2010 07:17:12 +0000
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So Mrs. Devi,

 

Can I know According to you who is the greatest player ever..... :)

If anyone is played so much cricket continuously for 20 years without dropping from the team for once......  is the greatest player of the game for your information...... Also captaincy is a different thing from playing the game... one more thing for information.... Tendulkar resigned form the captain of INDIA.... he was never dropped or fired from that position.....

Get some knowledge about the game madam... :)

Pranay

 

 


By Pranay Bhawsar, Senior Software Engineer, Yash Technologies Pvt Ltd  | 03 29 2010 07:15:27 +0000
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Mrs. Devi,

What do u mean by a greatest player...? Hitting 6s and 4s towards the end of the innings and scoring over 7 runs per over and chasing a target? Surely it is match winning. If a batsman does well in the first innings and set a huge target.. or Creating a strong platform in the second innings... isn't it a match winning effort...? Isn't he a match winner...? Yea!! to some extent...! Right...?! So Sachin is not a good match winner... right? Chasing the target is match winning... am i correct?! So Ponting is match winners, right??... now, lets talk about ODIs. Please check these statistics... (as of feb 4 2009).

WON CHASING TARGET

Name : Match : RUNS : HS : AVERAGE : 100 : 50
Sachin : 116 : 5033 : 134 : 56.55 : 14 : 28
Ponting: 92 : 3360 : 124* : 57.90 : 4 : 17

IN TOURNAMENT FINALS


Name : Match : RUNS : HS : AVERAGE : 100 : 50
Sachin : 39 : 1833 : 138 : 54.54 : 6 : 10
Ponting: 40 : 1344 : 140 : 39.52 : 2 : 7


* Sachin is the leading run getter in TWO world cups, 1996 and 2003
* Out of his 46 tons in ODI, 17 were while chasing and and 29 were in 1st inn.
* The most interesting fact is that Sachin has scored 46 hundreds, and out of these tons, 33 hundreds came as matchwinning hundreds. 14 came while batting second... 19 while batting first. which is more than the total no of hundreds scored by the batsman in the second position (So called Match winner PONTING).


Now I think you have got the answer if you understand cricket ?

 

Thanks,

Pranay

 


By Pranay Bhawsar, Senior Software Engineer, Yash Technologies Pvt Ltd  | 03 12 2010 11:35:01 +0000
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Sachin is greatest because

1. There are many in the cricketing world who started as early as Sachin but no one lasted as long years as Sachin and could not match Sachin's performance.

2. It's illogical to expect a player to expect 100 average in this era of cricket

3.There are many great cricketers who have contributed to cricket but to contribute and still continue to contribute to cricket is being carried out by only Sachin.

4.Sachin is at ease at all forms of cricket unlike few who are at ease at particular form of cricket.

5.There are many who wants to become or achieve like Sachin in India and world over.

6. Sachin has set an standered or bench mark for the game of  cricket.

7. Sachin records are so many it's simply tough proposition to anyone to challenge it.

8. Sachin is having higest followers in India and world over than any other players.

 Finally Sachin is  Sachin there cannot be any replacement for him. 


By c.s.manjunthan , BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER., ENTREPRENEURSHIP  | 12 28 2009 10:29:51 +0000
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What people here forget is that once a player gets injured he loses vital years in his life and his profession. They need the rest and have a strict regime to make a proper comeback.

Cricket is a strenous game. Out of those twenty years Sachin must have really played for only ten to twelve years actually. They get endorsements only because they are performers and are idolised by people the world over! There is a cult following these heroes. And I agree with Suraj, you need to face the leather on field in front of psectators not only in stadii but on tele's as well... The pressure to perfrom the stress to do well...

If its a debate then I say debate right and not out of spite!! :))


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 12 28 2009 09:26:50 +0000
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Apart from being great in cricket the qualities of schin are emulative.

Even after scoring more than 30,000 runs he plays every match as his first match.

Eventhough he is expert he stands like a stundet on the feild.

In spite of his so many feathers to his cap he looks very humble.

Eventhough he is senior player he is not at all proud as we see on the feild.

So many things to learn from him. For me he is ideal cricketer who can be followed by any sportsman..


By malladi madhukumar, AGM -MKTG, Andhra Cements Ltd  | 12 27 2009 02:34:50 +0000
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What a farcical assumption by Mr. Ardhendu Pal. Is this cricket or business ??

ps: Is Mr. Pal a bookie ??


By Suvrajit Gangopadhyay, B.E. (Elex. & Comm.)  | 12 27 2009 00:47:12 +0000
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have you ever played with leather ball,

you cant even touch the ball by akhtar and lee

before producing the datasheet based on assumption 

go to practical view of cricket

and if you cant stop posting rubbish 


By suraj dev singh, B.Tech/B.E. student, Jai narain college of technology,bhopal,M.P.  | 11 24 2009 20:36:52 +0000
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I agree with you Yash. For me Sachin is the GOD of Cricket!


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 11 24 2009 09:16:20 +0000
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He has palyed 20-20, test and one day successfully and has numerous records. He has played cricket for 20 years and made India and cricketing community proud. His innovative batting and strong performance against the best teams of the world including Australia is noteworthy. He sure is the greatest player.


By Akash , International Marketing Shabro  | 11 21 2009 15:30:08 +0000
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Sachin Tendulkar is not only greatest but if anything superlatives are available it can be applied to him.You ask in which areas of cricket he is not an example,even in public life with such huge followers he is an example.I feel this cricket world simply does not have any alternate choice. As if what he has contributed so far is not sufficient, he is still raring to go, at the same time Sachin's performances are bafling upcomming youngsters.


By c.s.manjunthan , BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER., ENTREPRENEURSHIP  | 11 21 2009 03:21:42 +0000
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Mr.Muhammed jabir rifahi,    I know many facts and figures that is authentic and without reading commented statistics please don't challenge me.......


By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 05 31 2011 04:35:03 +0000
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Mr. suraj dev singh, B.Tech/B.E. student, Jai narain college of technology,bhopal,M.P.     Please stop spreading rumors had he been the successful captain then why on earth Mumbai Indians did not win in IPL??????????????????? 

Answer to me with valid points not emotionally driven mind


By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 05 30 2011 21:38:30 +0000
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If he is the god then please go ahead and ask him to score a century out of 30 balls with eyes blindfolded come on my dear citizens of peoples republic of India be practical.........

He is NOT the highest Scorer in a match of any form

He is NOT the highest Wicket tacker all over and in a match

He is NOT the Best and fittest fielder     So whats the point in consideration of godliness in him read my very first comment for further clarifications


By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 05 30 2011 21:34:40 +0000
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There comes a point in greatness when we cannot compare the great person with his contempraries. Sachin belongs to that class- alongwith the Laras, Warne, Richards, Kapils and other. Really each of htem are unique and cannot be compared to the others. And frankly numbers really do not mean much in international cricket. You got to take too many factors into consideration....
By Vinoy Scaria James, Consultant, Travel Hub  | 05 30 2011 16:44:18 +0000
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Dear all, please remember game in the 1st position, then all comes at the secondary place, whether it is anybody & from any country.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 05 28 2011 07:48:10 +0000
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All said and done the greatest of them all - be it Bradman, Sobers, Kapil, Warne, Botham, or others closer memory- they cannot be bigger than the game. They are just greats.


By Vinoy Scaria James, Consultant, Travel Hub  | 10 16 2010 05:56:34 +0000
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There arrives a point in greatness, from wherein onwards comparisons with other greatness is foolhardy. It is stupid to even compare the laras, Pontings, Sachin with each other. Much less against the Sobers, Benauds, Richards and other greats of different eras. All of them are greats and an act by themselves.


By Vinoy Scaria James, Consultant, Travel Hub  | 10 16 2010 05:47:47 +0000
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I am one of the greatest fan of Sachin. His apetite for the game, his consistency, his skill and concentration make him legendary. Above all, his simplicity and down-to-earth attitude make him a lovable personality, above all controversies. I love Sachin for these qualities and cherish his batting.

But I dislike the people, who immediately rush to prove him the greatest cricketer, demand "Bharat Ratna" for him and call him God f Cricket. These people show sysmptoms of sychophancy, the quality I dislike most. The demand for "Bharat Ratna" for Sachin sounds like a good joke to me.

Of course Sachin is a great player. But Sunil Gavaskar, Vivian Richards, Lara, Kapil Dev, have devoted their life and best efforts for enrichng cricket. While admiring Sachin, we should also learn to respect others.


By Prakash Saitwal, Technical Support Manager, Aditya Birla Management Corporation P. Ltd.  | 03 31 2010 04:59:14 +0000
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Pranay, firstly please address me as Devi or Ms. Kaladeen. I am not anybody's mistress for your information.

Secondly ,WHY ARE YOU PICKING ON ME? Is it because I am not Indian?There are other connections who also commented in the negative and you did not give them  a sermon. It seems as though some part of my comment really annoyed you. I also noticed that the person who caused me to make my first comment has since deleted his comment. Is he by any means connected to you?

According to me there is no greatest player in the game of cricket. It is very difficult to make comparisons. There are many great cricketers and Sachin is one of them. As for cricket statistics, no need to remind me of anything. As for Indian cricketers, I have to date met greats like Sunil Gavaskar, Kapil Dev, Sachin Tendulkar. I hope to meet Rohit Sharma and a few others when they come to the Caribbean/Guyana next month.

Finally, this debate is about 4 months old, it seems as though you just woke up or you just joined Toostep , since this is your first contribution on this forum. However, I want to welcome you aboard.


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  | 03 31 2010 03:00:57 +0000
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Completely agree with Devi .....


By Nitin M Aras, Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ODTIN Food Solutions Pvt Ltd  | 03 29 2010 07:56:56 +0000
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Pranay, are you trying to convince me that Sachin is the greatest player of cricket? Did you check the stats of how many games he has played to date? Don't you think if Sunil Gavaskar or Kapil Dev or Vivian Richards or Brian Lara had played that amount of cricket they might have surpassed that total?. By the way why are you comparing Pointing with Sachin? Pointing is a very successful captain to date...he has lost matches but never been dropped from his captaincy.

Greatest player differs from greatest batsman.

 


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  | 03 29 2010 05:35:59 +0000
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There are people who haev done PHD and also shone in their carrer, there are some who have done only schooling and haev shone in their career

Talk about Sachin Asian continent he is teh king , talk about Africa Barian Lara , Garyy Sobers, gary Sobers, Walsh ( hope you know him- fast bowler), Ambrose - another fast bowler, these guys were worshipped

Peopel used to look at their practise matchesd with awe

students used to look at them with awe

Ambrose visited his school where he studied and teh children were all over him listening to him in rapt attention

So dont compare greats , they are greats in their own feilds, Sachin always humbly sates he is not number 1 then who are we to state so , he belives Sir Bradman to be number 1 .

 yes I have palyed cricket and have seen Sachin play cricket at a distance of few meters, he is as human as I am and he is as excelllent as a soilder in the boder protecting my country, there are greats in all walks of life you just need to see that person see withen yourself even you are great in soem area but you haev not seen that

Sachin has and so he is great

 


By Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance  | 03 26 2010 13:12:08 +0000
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u cant say he is the greatest bcoz many present and past players are almost like him or better trhan him if it would be to choose between only one of the two players in one day who would u choose sehwag or sachin same way for test wud u choose amla or sachin going by present form sachin can never equal don bradmans technique or viv agression


By ravi kumar sharma, team member, ista  | 03 04 2010 05:26:17 +0000
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Sorry Cricket is a game of the utmost lazy people where the fitness doesn't matter at all even the pot-belly people can also be seen in large volume tell me other than sumo wrestling and cricket where could you find those bulky masses? Please be practical. :-)


By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 12 28 2009 10:20:59 +0000
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Well Mr suraj dev singh you are a btech student right so tell me who is the best man professionally I think you would like to agree with me that the best man is who can perform even with his/her closed eyes so let Sachin be perfectly like that then only I can consider him the greatest


By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 12 28 2009 09:22:37 +0000
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Mr Suvrajit Gangopadhyay when these cricketers can feel of endorsing a brand rather than going to receive a national excellence award they are not doing the business right? And if they are doing it so why the hell I should not make it more professional by calculating the averages and all that and about me being bookie had I been the same I will not present myself everywhere be sensible rather than a simple so called foolish fan


By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 12 28 2009 09:17:11 +0000
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A clear cut NO as after playing for 20 long Years what can you expect I expected at least 5000 runs per year for first 5 years the 6500 per another 5 then 8000 for another & considering the age factor but experience would restrict myself to a mere 7000 so the figure must have been 132500 & he is well short by 102500 runs NOPES he is not the great


By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 11 24 2009 05:32:17 +0000
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I dont think he is the only greatest player in the world there are few who has done different forms of records in cricket field, Don bradman has done in test with a massive  average of closely 100 which is impossible for sachin. Brain lara scored 400 Runs in Test which is a record. Rahul Dravid has Scored a Record 11000 Runs in Tests which is completed in Just 14 Years of span where Sachin is in 12+ Odd Runs in Test So like wise There are many Greatest players in the Cricket hisory. But what makes sachin so special is he is the one who debuted cricket arena so early so everyone had so much of love on this boy which still they keep on him is cos of his consistency.


By Gururaj Nigale, Manager, Strategic Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd  | 11 21 2009 08:50:29 +0000
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Indeed Sachin is one of the greatest players of cricket but it doesn't mean he is the only good player. We should not forget players like Kapil dev and Viv richards who are a milestone in cricket history. No matter Sachin is the longest playing cricketer ever but we shouldn't underestimate other talents because of him.


By Kavitha Shankar, Sr/Principal Coresspondent, ABC  | 11 21 2009 05:19:38 +0000
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