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Created by : Mathew , Consultant, Free Lancer  | 03 08 2009 17:40:33 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Recession(Personal Interests)
Keywords : unearthly salaries
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The exorbitant salaries paid to the CEOs without thinking about the actual profit these people bring to the companies is the cause of this recession. I request those who try to debate with me to have a study of it before they pen their opinion. The case was the worst in the USA.

 
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Dear Mr. Mathew, Executive waste is only one of the reasons. My view is that unbridled greed of the Industrialists concentrating more on manipulation of money market to make quick wealth,  instead managing their core business with hard work and honesty is the main reaon.   I am sure a correction is overdue based on the following:-

1. Why a moderate good quality Car should cost more than a moderate house? Why our indegeneous manaufacturers are not able to produce vehicles and other materials of equal or better quality  compared to the imported ones and the ones manufactured locally by them in India?  Why the HM is langiuishing while every other foreign brands here are able to grow?

2. Why 1000 acres of arable land is required for a 'Small Car' factory. Welligton Island in Kerala which occupies a Major Port,  The Naval HQ,  Air port, Railway terminal, many big godowns and other related infrastrure,  is only 800 acres.  

Why is it necessaryt to take over cultivable and fertile agricultural land from farmers, for SEZ; and that too in thousands of acres where lots of waste lands across the country begging for development ? Why are we exporting most of our national wealth in raw form dirt cheap,  and import the finished products at very high cost? Why is that we have to import Telecom Hardware and soft ware from foreign companies while our telecom PSUs, lot of infrastructrue and excellent manpower are idling?. 

3. Why private oil and natural gas explorer is allowed to export the countries natural wealth while the country is importing  most of it's need?  Why is the industrialist go on increase the prices commodities like Steel, Oil etc., unresonably while Mother Earth never increase the cost of these?  For example unit price of the natural gas at the exploration point is less than 1 dollar, but look at  what price it is sold?  Similary Mother Earth give the oil free, and people put exorbitant cost to it.

4. Why are the land price and cost of buildgs sky rocketing for no reason?  Why good quality education and hospital facilities are so expensive and beyond the reach of comman man? Why a fresher is paid 5 to 10 times the salary of an already working person of ten years experience?

5.Why is it that while National and Private banks made huge profit year after year, they charge the customer for everything; from charging for every cheque leaf, for the credit in cash to one's account from an out station bank etc. etc? 

Why are there thousands and thousands of Mutual funds when most of the exisitng funds do not pay any dividend for years and the invest capital growth is negative and the fundmanger continue to live lavishly eating into investors capital? Why are companies allowed to bring in high value IPO's without adequate ordr book value in sight?  

6. Why is it that while fuel price went up by 5%, the govt. and private transport companies increased cost of travel & transport by 20 to 30% and not reducing it when fuel prices are reduced by 10%.

7. Why are our political leaders who shed crocodile tears about poor,  want to be cheered with huge flower garlands costing tens of thousands rupees while  the poor families they suppose to represent are langishing for at a day's meal and  500 families can have a day's food with that sort of money?

8. Why there was no commando unit in the most important city and why our security personnel do not have advanced wepaons, nutralising or sleeping gas grenades and training equal to the teen aged terrorists of Pakistan? Had the  ex-ministers spent some time to learn what their ministries are lacking, things would have been far better.

The list can go on.  The need of the day is a 'Correction' of mind set of various stake holders; in Private as well as in the government agencies across the globe, and that is what is happening now, not willful but out of compulsion. This correction is for a positive a change. Let us keep our fingers crossed?


By Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups  04 30 2009 13:15:43 +0000
 
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I do agree with shashikant quotes but not fully supporting his views.

Okey let me put the discussion in this way.

If you plot a graph CEO performance vs salary parameter would be company growth then its not at all CEO or uper management mistakes.

As company is growing every one is happy and CEO's are allowed to takeaway huge perks.

Now take another case CEO Performance vs salary parameter would company in a downturn phase.

here CEO's are not allowed to take huge perks as no on is happy and even CEO's fired up.

the conclusion from the above discussion is salary is not at all a consequense of Recession but its performance related issues.

As the economy were growth path last 5 years every CEO were in hurreid to make most out of it that had increased the compitition in the market at the same time CEO's and management lost their forsight every one under pressure taken wrong steps which did not given value to money but degrade its value. i mean this hurry-up scenario land money in hands of people who don't know how to generate money out of money (offcourse CEO knows it but not the borrowers they take it as it was easily available but repayments with interest is the problem) and thats the main cause of recession and not the CEO's salary.

Every person wants a handsome salary for his/her best and why not its not at all Marxist where a dumb also have a right to get equal to best"

   

 


By Purnesh Meshram, Process Engineer-Plant Design, SK E&C India Pvt. Ltd.  03 18 2009 06:53:39 +0000
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 You lost your house in an accidental bush fire along with your 

town folks.    You  fall into 'Recession'

Your house  is being auctioned to pay for the diamonds your wife purchased

with cash loan.        It is time to apply  'Correction'


By Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups  | 04 30 2009 11:27:40 +0000
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Nishant i agree with your point.If we are just paying high salaries to the top management of the company without measuring their performance then its not worth it because they are the people who are responsible to manage the company and to develop strategies on which they can leverage to grow the company further.first of all the performance should be measured for all the employees of the company and based on it the incentives and bonuses should be decided.


By Ramdas Pawar, Sales/BD Manager, Flex  | 04 15 2009 06:25:59 +0000
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I also fully agree with Mr Paul.He has placed all causes very nicely and its great fact too.I appreciate the views and wish that all member of this platform should go through his view and try to be aware of all situations.If we all think and try hope we can beat reccession for sure.


By BEENA AGARWAL, Head/VP/GM-Corporate Planning/Strategy, ANADI HI TECH AGRO PVT LTD  | 03 30 2009 07:55:06 +0000
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I fully agree with nishant that if the companies are facing bad times then they need to see what are the steps that the top management is taking with respect to that. let me give an example, recently U.S. government has given a bail-out package of $700 billion to citi group but instead of cuting down on unnecessary spendings, they are handing out huge sums of money to their top management executives as bonuses which shows that they are not at all concerned with the welfare of the company.

 so in my view the real cause of recession is indifferent nature of the top management towards their company.


By Padmaja Baskar, Product Development Manager, ONGC  | 03 28 2009 09:22:43 +0000
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I am totally agree with Mr. Abraham.

Even i have posted the view at my blogs

http://amirumar.blogspot.com/:)


By Muhammad Amir, Project Manager ( Flash Designing ), Advent Matrix  | 03 20 2009 13:16:04 +0000
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Excellent views. I fully agree with Mr. Paul.


By Arti Arora, Branch Manager/Regional Manager, NII  | 03 19 2009 19:12:34 +0000
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Dear All,

I am in full agreement with Mr.Abraham's point of view.There are many such questions which we as a society has to answer.After all we are the same people who are running this nation whether by electing the government or by allowing our system to carry on with such policies which is leading us to such situations.

Now the question is how we can go for big correction.What are we doing to improve our corporate social responsibility towards the society.And i think this has to be answered by the top management of every company who is doing business over here and also a a individual.is profit the only criteria through which we can measure performance or is their other model through which we can do it.After all we are today driving only profit as a corporate.What should be the dipstick for earning profit.If we are earning good profit also then how judiciously are we extending it to the consumers etc ...etc.

Thanks

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Regards

 



By Nishant Kurup, TSE (Rural,West MP) , Marico Industries Limited.  | 03 18 2009 12:42:39 +0000
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Excellent thought provoking views, Mr. Abraham Paul.

Thanx, Rohini for referral


By Veejay Bhatia, Administration Manager / Recruitment Coordinator, French Firm dealing in Oil & Gas, Dubai (UAE)  | 03 16 2009 19:08:03 +0000
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u are absolutly right Abraham sir... very nice way u catch the relevent root causes ......


By varsha , Head/VP/GM-Quality, frac  | 03 15 2009 15:46:19 +0000
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If the countries do not understand the real cause is the above mentioned, recession is not going to be over in the near future


By Mathew , Consultant, Free Lancer  | 03 08 2009 17:40:33 +0000
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Well recession is not about the CEO getting paid more than they deserve and I don't think this is the reason for the recession.

When the US housing sector was driving the economy to a new level. The loan lending institutions only aim was to give loans to as many potential customers as possible. They even gave loans to the one who doesn't deserve it...This is the biggest mistake they have done...

Booming housing sector resulted in more houses being build, they didnt bother about the excess inventor which resulted in decline of housing sector...then came the defaulter and financial crisis and then the recession..

The investment in the subprime loan was an excellent investment for many banks...This is another mistake...the greed to earn profits...

And rest points said by Manoj are all agreed by me....


By Dayanand Deshpande, Senior Consultant, Ernst & Young  | 04 30 2009 10:03:22 +0000
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The real reason may be the absence of controlling regulations.


By Ahmed Sultan, ITC, Airline Consultant  | 04 30 2009 07:27:23 +0000
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In continuation to my veiws as mentioned above..

Companies/corporates survived the Slowdown/recession will do the correction by hiving of the excessive supply to adjust with the market situation.

Econonomy grows slowly and steadily

Investors start investing

demand for products showing upward trends...

 

From all these mentioned above, it's cyclical and hence the recession and slowdown will come and go. It's a fact, it happened in the past also.

The CEO salary has no relation to the Slowdown and Recession. Excessive salary is not only paid to CEOs, but  paid to other Executives too. This is becasue of scarcity for a good resource where in a company can afford due to their excessive earnings or growth projection due to the economic growth.

So, get ready for the boom period after the slowdown/recession and very later prepare for the recession. Watch the world like an economist.

 

 


By Manoj , Branch Manager/Regional Manager Path Infotech Ltd  | 03 31 2009 03:54:19 +0000
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I see recession in a different way, my few cents(some bullet points) as mentioned below.

Growing Economy

FIIs finding Investment reasons, fuels growth and economy grows

Banks lowering interest rates and finding a way to increase their revenue

Spending power increases

Companies projects better growth and  profit results to  more investment.

Companies becomes greedy hires/invests/expands to reap more profit

Prices of things goes up, Inflation begins

Cost of products goes up as the throughput cost also rising

Inflation uncontrollable

Banks hikes rates

Peoples spending capacity reduces

Stops unnecessary spending, thoughtful purchases

Stock piles up due to excessive production and low in demand

Companies Predicts lower growth rates

Stock market dives downwards

Investors withdraws their money and  Invest in Gold or other such alternatives for better returns

Companies  lower their projection as demand for products is less

Retrenchment/restructuring starts to bring their expenses under control

Country faces slow down…..

Companies fails due to excessive exposure to the hyper inflated market which is bursted

Downward trend in industrial growth

The impact of the same is everywhere, corporates, govt, common public etc…

And further deep is the so called “recession” when the GDP gets in to negative growth .


By Manoj , Branch Manager/Regional Manager Path Infotech Ltd  | 03 30 2009 09:19:21 +0000
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Even this may be because of poor spending.


By s.simon suresh, Commercial Asst., Bureau Veritas Certification (BVQI)  | 03 19 2009 03:48:33 +0000
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I believe there are more than one reason for a recession & CEO salaries is not the only one. I have to agree on income disparity in our country has widened on a huge scale in the past four-five years. But long as the performance of the company and the CEO is being checked along with the talent in the market, it should be fair enough. And if a company is downsizing then the CEO should not be taking fat bonuses home. And we can see this in some companies where CEOs are taking a pay cut during tough times....


By Shashikant Rajak, Senior Consultant, Technozone consultancy ltd  | 03 10 2009 08:52:00 +0000
 
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