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Created by : Avanish Ratna, Actuary Manager, LIC  | 01 23 2009 05:35:15 +0000
Industry : InsuranceFunctional Area : India(Markets)
Keywords : mutual funds ulip
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Which is better ULIP or Mutual Funds?

 
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ULIP Vs Mutual Funds
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I believe ulips will outscore a term insurance + Mutual fund combination. Kindly analyse the below mentioned illustration and post ur comments.

1. Mutual Fund+Term Plan
Mr X Takes 25 lakhs term cover costs 66000 single premium and invests 34000 at once in a equity diversified fund and staying invested for 20 years. Now the net investment is one lakh and shall assume the mf gives 10% return on 34000(8% less fund management charges of 2%)will give 158440 after 20 years.


          

2. Single Premium ULIP
Mr Y takes 25 lakhs cover by investing Rs. 1 lakh in a single premium ULIP and staying invested for the same period. For the same return of 10%(inclusive of allocation and fund managenent and mortality charges) will give him Rs. 226097 which is a better return.


          

 

 


By vijayasaravanan , Partner, MS Contractors and Amway Business Owner  06 21 2009 07:17:43 +0000
 
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There is ever ending comparison between ULIPs and Mutual Funds. The reason behind is that the ULIPs are mis-sold by agents and purchased by the insured, as Investments and not as Insurance but the ULIPs are getting protection in the name of Insurance policy. It also gives bad name to the Insurance in the name of mis-selling. The ULIPs are generally sold by the agents saying " you will get so much amount after so much time and you can pay only upto 3 years; you can withdraw after three years". [JEEVAN ASTHA of LICI was sold only like this expressing as if it could give better returns than Bank Deposits, at that time when Banks were offering 9-10 % rate of interest with quarterly compounding against JEEVAN ASTHA offering guaranteed 10% simple rate of return making huge negative difference against Bank Deposits. - Excellent example of mis-selling.]Clearly, the person purchsing the policy, like this, is not is not motivated with its Insurance component but with its Investment component.   

It i clear from the foregoing that the ULIPs are generally sold as Investment and seldom a Insurance. Why then the ULIPs enjoy status or protection of Insurance? The ULIPs may give better returns in long term, say 10-12 years, in comparison to Mutual Fund on account of difference mainly in Fund Management Charges. It is, therefore, suggested that the ULIPs for shorter terms, 10 -15 years should be kept under the category of Investments (as Mutual Funds + Limited Insurance) and be regulated by SEBI. Also, the commissions payable to the advisors may be rationalied as in case of Mutual Funds. However, the ULIPs for the term beyond 10-15 years may remain as Insurance. Then only real comparison between ULIPs and Mutual Funds can be made. Further, it would end the futile debates of ULIPs v/s Mutual Funds.

Certainly Mutual Funds are better option as compared to ULIPs for comparatively shorter term, say upto 10-15 years, apart from better liquidity and other benefits. Darker aspect of ULIPs is upfront charges in the initial years and greater opportunity of mis-selling. Thanks.


By SURENDRA TEWARI, Freelancer, Guru FinAdvisors  11 01 2009 23:50:41 +0000
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Most of us need insurance and by its very nature it is long term. One cannot buy insurance at old ages and comparing it with short term mutual funds is not correct. Investing in mutual funds on a long term basis without insurance cover is not a good choice. The fund switching option of ULIPs is an excellent tool to park your funds depending on market trend without sacrificing tax benefits make ULIP the best choice.


By Prasad PN, Consultant, Trainer  | 11 16 2009 18:43:17 +0000
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ulips are preferable over mutual funds keeping a long term objective and also if somebody wants to

invest a lum-sum amt as allocation charges r quite reasonable in that case..


By vipin sharma, Team Leader -(Technical), LIC OF INDIA  | 10 21 2009 18:09:20 +0000
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Although I personally hate ULIP plans,  I think ULIP is better that Mutual Funds because they allow you to have life cover as well.


By Sharath Kotian, Development Officer, Life Insurance Corporation Of India  | 06 21 2009 09:25:48 +0000
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I support vishab veer singh. Ulip is a better option than mutual fund.


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  | 06 20 2009 08:25:40 +0000
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ulips is a good option over the mutual fund investment.because mutual fund never provide any life cover to the customers and mutual funds mainly deals in one particular sector.and other hand ulips always gives good diversified option to the customers as they put customers money in to different growing sectors.So i believe ulips are good option over mutual funds


By vishab veer singh rana, Sales Manager.Met life India  | 06 08 2009 18:40:19 +0000
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Both ULIPs and Mutual funds have same style of investment .

But their objecives are different, where mutual fund is only for investment and ulip is for insurance and investment. so when u get additional benefit, u need to pay for that. Charges will be deducted from ur fund accordingly.

So I always recomend if a person's need is investment he has to go for MF.

If it is insurance i ll recoment ULIP over a MF + term plan combination,


By vijayasaravanan , Partner, MS Contractors and Amway Business Owner  | 04 14 2009 06:41:27 +0000
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Dear Mr. Noshir,,

As a consultant trainor you might be aware of the benefit illustration, which is a mandatory document annexed with the policy document which is very transperant, includes all direct and indirect charges.

what else u expect from IRDA? 


By vijayasaravanan , Partner, MS Contractors and Amway Business Owner  | 03 26 2009 17:26:49 +0000
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ULIPs

Determined by the investor and can be modified as well

No upper limits, expenses determined by the insurance company

Portfolio disclosure not mandatory

Section 80C benefits are available on all ULIP investments

Mutual Funds

Minimum investment amounts are determined by the fund house

Minimum investment amounts are determined by the fund house

Quarterly disclosures are mandatory

Section 80C benefits are available only on investments in tax-saving funds


 


By Jyoti Rath, Sr. Associate, Barclays  | 03 25 2009 08:24:05 +0000
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In this market situation one should prefer ULIP than Mutual Fund Because ULIP has some advantages now. Yes in terms of return it is not so good as mutual fund but interms of safety it is the best option.


By Prateek Singh Rathore, Actuary Manager, Tata Aig Insurance Solutions  | 03 24 2009 06:20:44 +0000
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Section 80C benefit is available in all ULIP investment whereas in mutual funds Section 80C benefit is available only on investments in tax-saving funds. So if you want to save tax go for ULIP....


By Himai Malakar, Actuary Manager, Cholamandalam Insurance  | 02 25 2009 13:36:19 +0000
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first both these products cant be compared because the have different objectives. I ll recomend ULIPs when u intend to go for a mutualfund+term plan combination.


By vijayasaravanan , Partner, MS Contractors and Amway Business Owner  | 02 10 2009 10:50:24 +0000
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I think this is better I am not saying just because I have invested in it but there is no upper limits to it and portfolio need not be disclosed through it nd they also have a nominal cost or they are free.


By Avanish Ratna, Actuary Manager, LIC  | 01 23 2009 05:35:15 +0000
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Mutual Fund is the better investment instruement than Ulips. In ULIP the large part of your investment goes into the various charges like Fund management, administrative & mortality charges which gives you less units & ultimately the lesser returns. In Mutual Fund if you invest online there will be no charges. Prefer term insurance plan along with Mutual Fund investment which will fullfill both the needs.


By Paresh Dhembare, Area Sales Manager, ICICI Bank Ltd  | 12 05 2009 17:44:38 +0000
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Mutual funds are regulated by sebi and there are restrictions on charges. Mutual funds are pure investments while ULIPs also offer insurance. MFs offer more flexibility when investing is considered and on the other hand ULIPs charge heavily in the initial years. So ULIPs qualify as a good option in terms of return only if you are going for long term. While only tax saving MFs qualify for sec 80 C all ULIPs offer tax benefits.  I think if investing is your sole purpose then mutual funds are better otherwise it is better to go for ULIPs.

 


By Padmanabhan R, Articled / Audit assistant, Finance student  | 07 04 2009 19:30:19 +0000
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Mutual Funds have higher rate of return than ULIPS in a span of 4-5 years. The reason MF is compared to ULIP,i.e.,ULIP is an instrument that comes under sec 80C and its an investment option blended with insurance cover.

At th outset, it can be concluded that ULIPS are better than MFS. But, i would like to coin some important differences that will let you know why MFS are better than ULIPS.

1. ULIPS carry high charges in the initial years of investment that eats away a substantial portion of your investment. Compared to it MFS have low entry charges.

2.Insurance companies sell ULIPS emphasizing upon its unique nature of insurance cover blended with a good return on investment. But one can start with a good MF and simultaneously opt for a term plan that can give o greater insurance cover than ULIPS.

3. MFS are governed by SEBI, which ensures proper disclosure of all the related information for the investors compared to ULIPS which governed by IRDA.


By Alok Routray, PGPM 2010 Batch  | 06 30 2009 04:24:48 +0000
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I agree with all of you..

If one is making an investment, Mutual Fund is always better than Insurance.. As everyone have stated the important aspect of Allocation caharges.

Also i believe that there are mutual fund schemes for all the customers i.e. Debt for the one who do not want to take much risk, equty schemes, balanced, liquid, so many options are there for investor in Mutual Fund...


By Japan Shah, Assistant Professor, Oxford School of Management  | 06 20 2009 05:37:35 +0000
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Mutual funds give good results becuse it not given more commission to bussines agents but Unit link insurens polices they will give 35% on our money to agents then our investment was only 65%. in mutual funds our investment is 97.25% will go to our investment


By D.V.N.SAI RAMARAO, MANAGER, TAWAH  | 06 20 2009 02:49:24 +0000
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Mr.Sumeet i agree with you,definitely mutual funds are a better option to invest than ULIP because in mutual funds the money is being invested in various industries or companies so you are at lesser risk of losing money as the loss in one company can be compensated by the gain in another one.

But if we consider the rate of return than ULIP is giving higher rate of returns than mutual funds.

what would you say on that?


By Jyoti Rath, Sr. Associate, Barclays  | 04 09 2009 09:47:46 +0000
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Ya, actually, as the allocation of your money is higher in mutual funds rather than the ULIP plans. Also, there are other charges apart from life insurance premium, which are being levied by the insurance companies. So still if u opt for life insurance policies, be sure about the money which will be allocated further in the equity and debt markets


By Jatin , Research Associate/Analyst, Grail Research, Monitor Group  | 03 25 2009 10:05:13 +0000
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Yes,the regulator ,IRDA now needs to get the insurers to be transparent in their expense ratio,& not only from showing to the prospect the upfront charges.

Have a benchmark limit for all variable/charges then can we compare between the two.  


By noshir marshall, Consultant Trainer., ICICI Prudential Life  | 03 23 2009 16:15:32 +0000
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At any point of time mutual fund is the better option. ULIP kills the investors return. Instead one can plan his investment according to his requirements, so that he benifits out of it. If one wants insurance den he/she should be goin for a term insurance so that he is covered for a higher amount. and if he/she wants a lumpum amt at the maturity one should carry out a SIP of the required amount. He will get more then what he is expecting. but it should be in a large cap scheme so that der is less volatality in the fund.


By Sumeet Phalak, Mutual Fund Analyst, Jain Investment  | 03 07 2009 18:21:53 +0000
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Benefit of MF over ULIP

ULIP (Unit link Insurance Plan) in my sense its a combination of Insurance and Wealth creation product its not a Perfect Investment Instrument due to its long Term in nature and High Mortality Charge and Hidden cost lack of Liquidity and its also MARKET LINKED Product ,For wealth creation MF is Good.

Reasons why MF Few is Given Below,

  1. Liquidity
  2. Detail Analysis of Portfolio
  3. Transparency
  4. Minimum Expenses
  5. No hidden Cost
  6. Broader Choice of MF scheme
  7. MF have both Short to Long Term Plan

 Still Many thing to Say About MF ,so in My Sense MF is Best ,but I dont reject need of ULIP or Insurance Product its depend upon person need.In my sense a person should consider Term Plan for Risk Coverage and MF for wealth Creation


By Binay Kumar Singh, Marketing Manager, B.R.Solution  | 03 01 2009 17:47:16 +0000
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Mutual funds have more leverage in them its convenient for people who have fixed target for investment and also do not want to get involved in decision of deciding the portfolio.


By Amit Monga, Actuary Manager, Bajaj Allianz  | 01 23 2009 05:38:59 +0000
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