Frankly ... confused. Perhaps subscribers have been misleaded so long. Your un-biased and 'interest-free' openion counts. --------- Latest : This debate may go on never to end. Arguments are placed / will be submitted. Some might have 'interest' and some are just academic here. My expectation : .... " ULIPs should be converted into a product that has an investment component that has similar rules and regulations to mutual funds, in combination with an life-cover component that has the same pricing as term insurance. If this happens, then I'm sure that every opponent of ULIP wil be happy ..... " quoted from an expert. Dont know whether he/she has any 'interest' in saying this. Latest ... (II) : IRDA proposaes changes in ULIPs : effective lst July'10 -- the policy will have minimum tenure of 5 yrs ( & lock ), -- all policies would have 'Insurance Clause', baring Helth Ulips -- No loan against ULIP Policies -- Top-up preminum will also have Insurance clause, Lock 3 yrs. For all Insurace Cos : they are to inform prospective customers about the "Commission Payable to Agents" in advance
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ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India
| 05 25 2010 16:15:38 +0000
ULIP - Unit Linked Insurance Plans. I am surprised that the debates provided by the best in the industry does not match the requirements of the question asked. With all due respect to all the debaters on this, I wish to put forward simple facts of ULIP. Basic understanding is that IRDA controls all the Insurance and linked products by its rules and regulations and SEBI has no role to play in Life Insurance sector. After traditional products, ULIPS were introduced into the market in the year 2001, when the private sectors were opened up. Since then, ULIPS have undergone many changes and took to the market. Here in ULIPs the investor has a life coverage and investment also. Out of the money invested, a part of it goes into Life cover and the rest of the money is invested in the market by the Fund Manager. The designing and promotion of Life Indurance products is purely regulated by the rules and regulations of IRDA and there is no second thought about it. Now coming to SEBI - Securities and Exchange Board of India, established in 1991, regulates and formulates the investment ie., stock exchanges, AMCs etc., I understand that everyone who writes a line in this forum is highly knowledgble and experienced. Let us all keep the facts and debating to the basics and take it to next level of understanding. Knowledge display is good, but it is waste of time and space if proper information is not shared.
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Amba Prasad G S, Business Analyst, Sales & Distribution
| 05 25 2010 13:29:30 +0000
World over, all Insurance plans, conventional or market linked or any other innovative product....they are regulated by the Insurance Regulators!!! When there is an insurance concept coming into picture, it should be the Insurance Regulator. However, there is definitely a point on the other side of the argument. There are certain solutions: 1. The product features of ULIPs, the way they are sold, the way the product is monitored & controlled.....everything should go through a drastic change. 2. First of all, IRDA should take steps to see that these products are sold as Isnusrance plans...not only that, it should be percieved by the public at large as insurance plans. This will come about by bringing in fundamental changes in the product. The insurance component, the lock in periods, the charge structures, etc. 3. More importantly, steps should be taken to monitor the fund/fund manager's performance. Probably, possibility of this function being outsourced or somthing similar to that should be worked out. Nothing wrong in having a collaborative approach with SEBI. Innovative approaches by the two Regulators is also needed. 4. Another important factor is the commission structure. As every one accepts, this factor has forced SEBI to take this stand. 5. One big question is: What did IRDA do to promote ULIPs as Insurance Plans? I don't think it has done any job in this direction. 6. Finally, is the approach of both the regulators in coming into a public fight right? Was there no solution? Lots of lessons need to be learnt by the regulators from the corporates too.....
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SHARATH CHANDAR REDDY, Business Development Manager - Insurance, I T C Ltd
| 05 25 2010 09:25:28 +0000
Gupta, we see so many new entrants in mutual funds also, do we have to ban them because they dont have experience?? On charges part everything is open in IRDA benefit illustration,, customers should be cautious in choosing a scheme and bind with a good advisor.
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vijayasaravanan , Partner, MS Contractors and Amway Business Owner
| 04 20 2010 12:27:11 +0000
WHEN IRDA IS EXCLUSIVELY FLOATED TO CONTROL INSURANCE RELATED ACTIVITIES NO ONE NEED TO INTERRUPT.LET THE GOVT DEMARCATE THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND DELEGATE REQUIRED AUTHORITY INSTEAD OF ALLOWING OTHERS TO INTERRUPT WHICH CREATES A SENSE OF FEAR IN THE MINDS OF INVESTING PUBLIC SINCE THERE IS NO UNITY IN DIRECTION.
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s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD
| 04 20 2010 11:49:16 +0000
Yes it is the domain of IRDA. Since the 'with profit' endowment policy of the insurance companies are in the purview of IRDA. And nobody questions the authority of IRDA in that regard than why and from where does the question arise that ULIPS are not the sole domain of IRDA. ULIPS functions just as the 'with profit' endowment plan of the insurance companies. Difference being the percentage of funds allocated to share market investments. In the endowment plans the returns are less that is why no eyebrow is raised. In the ULIPS the return are quiet higher that is why everybody wants to have the share of the booty.
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Aditya Sharma, Insurance Advisor/Analyst, LIC OF INDIA, ICICI LOMBARD
| 04 19 2010 14:18:32 +0000
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ULIP, must have been created as an Insurance plan but has developed into an Investment plan as each company itself highlights growth and even an investor looks for growth. No body is interested in aspects of Insurance neither company highlights that.
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Vishal Jindal, Head - Operations, Globe Automobiles Pvt Ltd
| 05 25 2010 16:27:28 +0000
Its in India only that Insurance is getting sold as investment products. Its pure investment products, Insurance term has been added to increase selling point as Tax Benefit. Although due to this they comes under guidelines of IRDA ACT2000. where they have to 75% in govt or govt related securities. So Actually they can invest only 15% in EQUITY OR DEBT FUNDS IN STOCKS, only AA and AAA rated funds. So There is a GREAT MYTH THAT ULIP POLICY INVESTMENTS HAPPENS ALL 100% IN STOCKS OR MARKET. If you really want a investement policy and Insurance togather, THAN WHY DO u buy ULIP INSURANCE POLICY.? buy INSURANCE( TERM) OF 30-40 YEARS, COST WILL BE 1000 RS TO 3-5 LAKHS, MEANS IN PREMIUM OF RS 6000 , YOU CAN GET 15-20 lakh insurance coverage and for return INVEST IN SIP MUTUAL FUND, WHERE ALL OF YOUR MONEY WILL BE INVESTMENT DONE IN STOCKS OR DEBTS. WAKE UP- india WAKE UP
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Abhishek Gupta, Director , Skills Factory
| 04 21 2010 07:25:13 +0000
ULIPs are known as insurance products so far or maybe later also. But According to its features it seems to look like an investment plan with insurance. But ULIPs returns always "SUBJECT TO MARKET RISK" according to all insurance provider companies. Then due to this we conclude that ULIPs are more an investment product(Stock Market) than insurance...........
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pooja , M.Com student, Delhi University, New Delhi
| 04 20 2010 20:04:01 +0000
ULIP is an investment scheme where insurance is additional kit given by the insurance company .It has always been the investment tool .Here in ULIP money is invested in Market which comes under the regulations of SEBI.Even one can take it as mirror image of mutual funds which is already accepted as investment scheme.
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sachin , Freelancer, Freelancer
| 04 20 2010 13:23:08 +0000
What do you know about functions of IRDA. IRDA ACT 2000, does not deal with Funds Management. IRDA act 2000, talks about terms and conditions to open a Insurance Compnay and their security deposit required 300 Crore and 70 % from new premium needs to be invested in Govt securities. Rest 30% Insurance co can invest in top 10 and blue chip sector, There is no comparison required with Mutual funds. Mutual fund house are running managing funds from years, their exposure, ownership, volume is much higer than any insurance co can have so they have best of experts in managing funds as per theme chossen. As Investment comes under SECURITIES- ULIP insurance plan cant remian away from SEBI management and control. Do you people know that every insurance co charge different fund managements charges , how can u trust their fund managers , who are not known to handle so big portfolio, diff insurance company allocate different premium amount in start of policy years, why surrender value of diff co and diff policy is different--- BECAUSE THERS IS NO MAI BAAP TO UNIFORM THEM.
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Abhishek Gupta, Director , Skills Factory
| 04 19 2010 12:51:52 +0000
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