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Created by : Manoj Chaturvedi, Assistant Professor, Bangalore university  | 01 22 2010 12:17:08 +0000
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Recently, centre has decided to close all the deemed universities in the country. The objective of this decision was to review functioning of the existing deemed to be universities, and ensure that standards of higher education and research are maintained by such institutions as to justify their continuance as deemed to be universities. Government has quoted a number of reasons for this decision. But because of this decision, more than 2 lakh students doing under-graduate and post-graduate courses in these universities were shattered.

So I want to ask you all, Was the decision right from Government to abolish deemed universities?

 
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This decision taken by government was completely an correct one. Deemed universities are nothing but educational institutes which are running business in the name of education. The only qualification of your being able to study in them is that you need to take birth with a silver spoon or else you'll be rejected. I think, by abolishing this kind of Institution, government has not only opened a doorway for education to all classes of students but also with increased competition in government universities, good and talented students will come out of them which, in one way is good for the country.


By Manoj Chaturvedi, Assistant Professor, Bangalore university  01 22 2010 12:17:08 +0000
 
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Dear Manoj, why don't you think about the future of students who'll be deprived of higher education because of this? and what's the guarantee money game won't be played there? We all know government institutions are famous for their corruption. In this case, how can you talk about polished students? This is the reason students go abroad and settle there causing brain drain. I think rather than abolishing them, Government should abolish their "deemed" identity and make them a part of government institutes with strict rules and regulations so that no students remains deprived of higher education.


By Sarika Singh, Assistant Professor, BIT  01 22 2010 12:26:45 +0000
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yes ,deemed universities r to be abolished .Government should take measures to maintain the uniformity of colleges in their infrastructures placements 


By sai kiran M, VR SIDDARTHA ENGINEERING COLLEGE  | 07 26 2010 09:33:22 +0000
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Yes, thats a move in the right direction..otherwise the whole advanced education industry has just been reduced to a huge money making monster..literally robbing people of their hard earned money and compelling students to get under the burden of loan so soon in life. They should be immediately abolished.
By Jaya Ray, Manager, KyaZoonga.com  | 06 09 2010 05:54:32 +0000
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yes . . by issuing the permissions to deemed universities they will demand more fee for the courses and the quality of education may be deteriorated if they did not maintain the qualities and standards
By Moparthi Sai Ramya Sree, Software Developer, Virtusa (India)  | 06 05 2010 06:41:24 +0000
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Yes it was a right decision but wrongly taken. They should care the future of students first. The deemed universities started with their concern and it was in their knowledge . Why they have not taken timely action on that. If at all they want to abolish these universities they must ensure that the future of the students must not be in dark.Care to be taken in future that no body should play with the future of youth and students.
By Krishna Bhardwaj, Lyrics Writer, Freelancer  | 06 05 2010 06:18:03 +0000
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It goes without saying that these universities solely exist for profit making and they do so at the cost of  students's career.The kind of learning they provide is not of much help and is not at par with the better colleges and universities.They just aim at providing degree in the patron course in turn for the money.And many B-Schools who thrive on their name of providing professional degrees like MBA etc charge fat sum of money from students in turn for nothing to give students back.But government should come up with new policies in this field very soon.I welcome banning such universities.


By DEEPAK SHARMA, Assistant Marketing Manager, ABC Montessori  | 03 07 2010 08:30:26 +0000
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Abolishing the deemed status will allow government to scrutinize the very actions of these universities which have completely diverged from their main agenda and are exercising arbitrariness through a totally flawed mechanism. Removing the deemed status will bring these private entities under the government's check, which will certainly decrease the purview of their exorbitant power that has been exercised by them till now. For instance, the entities, since will be functioning under the 'deep and pervasive' control of the Government, can be questioned in the court of law on the grounds of violation of Fundamental Rights under article 32 of the Constitution of India, which basically are not available against any other entity than the state itself.
By siddharth mathur, Student, KIIT University  | 02 07 2010 17:07:16 +0000
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Always system form with certain objective and intentions and I am sure it is always for good if implemented properly...allowing deemed universities was one of that...which has increased facilities for education but at the same time...education standard detoriarated.... which we have seen in report from Govt authorized bodies, news papers...and from result world level competition exams.. Infosys had not awarded any engineering stream student  for their contribution in this year...Please read my Q&A posting.."WHO IS RESPONSIBLE"

Either guideline to run deemed universities has to be reconstituted or closed the same...Govt has taken right move... 


By Nitin M Aras, XYZ  | 01 31 2010 11:23:15 +0000
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Latest : The Supreme Court has stayed such steps and asked Central Govt. to explain the reality.


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 01 31 2010 09:54:54 +0000
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Establishing the Deemed university is a business which affect the students. So better abolish the concept.


By Khwairakpam Silamani Devi, Legal Advisor, IOB  | 01 30 2010 11:09:56 +0000
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It is good to come to Know How the STUDENTS are cheated. And they should fight for their studies then only they will work hard for their work too.


By Alphonse , HR Executive, Nokia  | 01 28 2010 09:18:14 +0000
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yes it is good that the deemed universities are monitored. The Govt.'s aim is not to abolish these universities..But to provide good Education


By Surendhar , Mechanical Engineer-HVAC, MJ Associates  | 01 28 2010 03:57:32 +0000
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Well the name of the university is of utmost importance in one's degree.

With the opening of deemed universities the students have faced problems.Though they get their certified degree courses but as these universities are not recognized they have to face the problems later on.

So the committees that are going in for deemed universities should make their standards to get it recognized.


By Saurabh Sauson, Marketing Executive,Advertising  | 01 28 2010 03:36:39 +0000
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Dipankar Nandi, Shillong I too support of the goverment's desion to abolish those universities which are running for business activities other than complete education
By Dipankar , Education Coordinator, Career Option Center  | 01 27 2010 12:04:38 +0000
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Of course it is the right thing to do. Government should have done this much earlier. I personally know many 'family run' deemed institutions. what i found inappropriate more than its business nature was they opted for syllabus of their personal choice and both examinations and evaluation were way too liberal. This move certainly will increase the quality and value of degrees.

Many deemed universities only lost their 'deemed' status only. They can affiliate to the universities and follow their syllabus. The present students will have to re-appear exams of the affiliating universities.

i have at most sympathy for the students who are affected by this but anything that is derogating education should be dealt with accordingly.

It will definitely prove good to our future students


By hbnh , dfedf, dfer  | 01 27 2010 05:49:12 +0000
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It is absolutely right. At least now the government has woken up. As these private universities and institutions are playing with the education of our younger generation. They are being run on totally commercial lines with scant regard for the law of the land.

It is high time that they were reined in. Most of these are either run by ex MLA's or with connections to them. Hardly any of them have gone beyond an undergrad degree, then in that case how can they claim to be Vice chancellors etc. If at all they wanted to profit from it, they should have just invested in the business and then appointed experienced educators and academicians to run the show.

But one wonders why the government is not taking any action against the UGC which is also part of its own ministry and who is primarily responsible for mushrooming of these universities. The govt. should put its own house in order before it can point a finger at others.


By Jaygopal Raghavan, Marketing Manager, Landmark Group  | 01 26 2010 07:23:57 +0000
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This is right decision. Deemed universities have found a way to cheat the government and admit any number of students in particular discipline e.g ECE, EEE etc. I see few deemed universities having more than 800 students for ECE in every batch. Originally it was intended to increase number of universities for best quality of education. But our policy makers used that word and converted existing colleges into deemed universities and made money. We know how they secured, yes secured deemed status. It is better if it is abolished. But the question is - will it happen ?
By chandrasekaran , Chief of Bureau/Editor in Chief, Express Publications  | 01 26 2010 06:07:11 +0000
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This should happen very earlier. We can't make our country a education handicapped. I agree with points raised by other side. But our country is first. A country will be powerful if it has standard quality education in every field. Government decision to shut down deemed universities is a major step to acquire the quality education. Actually these deemed universities are those one, which are not following certain set of education standards and are making huge money from students.


By Pankaj Upreti, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 01 25 2010 04:12:23 +0000
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I think the decision taken by the government is correct.I am agree with manoj sir, that Deemed universities are making money on the name of education, they take high amount of money to take admission in that universities, no matter that how is the student just the main thing is money, and the education system is also not as good as other universities and after providing degree they give a job as a gift by the help of money. And because of this students of other universities face lot of problem in searching job.Sarika madam i think government universities can't be as corrupted as these deemed universites because they have not any external pressur they can do what they want to, so i think this is good decision ,these deemed universities just making croud in the field of education by giving degree to the children of welthy or politically strong or any type of approachable persons....

 


By Pankaj Dubey, B.Tech/B.E. student, Shri Sant Gadge Baba Collage Of Engineering & Technology  | 01 24 2010 20:16:26 +0000
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Govt should not abolish deemed universities, as india's population is increasing, the Students for higher education will increase. so, the way to control this situation is to control the quality standard of these universities to provide better education & Future.
By Ishan Dave, STUDENT, EEC  | 07 31 2010 04:25:56 +0000
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it should not be abolished. because the students in those universities will suffer.the government need to give sometimes to those universities to improve the standard.if they failed to meet the standards then it can be abolished.


By satheesh , M.B.A student, VYSYA College,Salem  | 07 26 2010 12:25:47 +0000
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deemed universities could have been started in front of the nose of the government i presume. allowing them to be started and ordering their closure abruptly may not be fair. when the country needs varied educational institutions to meet the demand and may be some deemed universities could be doing a good autonomous job offering quality eduction too and setting the benchmarks.

the deemed universities could have been regularised based on certain critrion grading them - while those lacking could be given a fair amount of time say two years to cope up with seeking government recognition in the process. this grading and recognition process will automatically put the deemed universities on a track meeting the standards - those not meeting could be subsequently abolished or derecognised leaving the choice to the citizens and free market forces. yes, some regulatory principles and law could be evolved which would govern unfair practices if any keeping the citizens alert and informed thereby.

thus, the deemed universities could have been regulated and upgraded at a fast pace placing some value on their existence in the educational domain meeting the demands - could be given choice of being affiliated with some existing regional universities and upgrading themselves to the standard with the monitoring responsibility on the university providing the needed support in terms of finance and infrastructure or curriculum standards.

the act of abolishing seems like allowing slums to develop and later bulldozing them at will as if the government and the municipalities with all their intelligence services not being aware so far and could not have prevented such formations not in the interest of the nations and the citizens, at the sweet will of the government of the day. even a criminal is offered a fair trial and opportunity to defend and reform.

hope this sounds as a counterpoint to be reflected upon,

 

regards/kshantaram

 

 

 

 

 


By kshantaram , GM-hrd/hr professor  | 05 18 2010 11:49:03 +0000
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Most of the universities run by state and central governments are in dire straits except IIT's, NIT's etc. Lots of deemed universities are giving quality education. The guidelines should be set at a high standard and the inspections should be carried out periodically.
By Suriyaprakash , Head of the Department, Periyar College of Pharmacy  | 02 01 2010 22:55:41 +0000
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The govt . is partly right in abolishing deemed universities. this is a topic which need a broad discussion and to be handled in a more mature way. rather than abolishing the deemed universities the minstry could have done some stringent measures which can curtail mushrooming deemed universities.

I agree partly with both yes & NO.

 

There should be stringent rules to run a deemed university. No institution should be granted even temporary deemed university status untill all requirements to start a university is met. Right from administrative to academic if the rules are not complied the status should not be granted. Only after institution is recognised as a deemed University they should be permitted to take admissions. Including parent campus and off centres.  I was working with the international centre of a top ranked deemed university. I cant narrate the pathetic condition of academics going over there. One student told me that after his course he's not sure whether he will be an engineer or a forman.  such practices should not be allowed. deemed universities and it's off campus cannot be & should not be profit making centres only. The govt. should keep in mind this is not a factory producing some non living produts. this is a factory that produces the future of the nation. Budding future talents.

 

I do agree with ms sarika and others who are concerened with the fate of the existing students. here also the govt. should be careful abt the future of the students. it's not their fault that they joined these instituitions . The govt. had previously approved these instituitions hence they joined there. if the isntituitions are not maintaining the standard it's the fault of the govt. & the institutitions but not of the students. In such cases the govt. can abrogate/ repudiate/ cancel the recognition of the institution but there should be a rider stating that the existing students can continue their studies but the university is prohibited from taking future admissions. the degree awarded should be considered valid. in such cases there 's a chance that the instituition may run it perfunctorily for the sake of running it since it is not good for them running it without admissions. In that case the govt. should intervene and should make sure that the academics of the existing students are not suffered.

Granting permissions to start of campus centres are also should be done carefully and stringently after the insitutions meeting the required standards.

Deemed universities are necessary for India for the govt. cannot provide the entire infra structure for higher education. It doesn't mean that anyone and every one can start a Deemed University converyting wedding hall, cinema theatre, some shopping complex etc. The should be stringent rules and there should be an authority like IRDA, TRAI to see that the insitutions are maintaining the standards.

 


By pramod.p.k , ops, Property  | 01 29 2010 09:08:24 +0000
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By Syed Abrar Ahmed, Sales/BD Manager, Reynold's INC  | 01 27 2010 13:42:31 +0000
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At the same time i too feel for my fellow mates who would loose their future and may land on astray. so I also want to get the assurance from the government to absorb my dear friends in other recognised universities.
By Dipankar , Education Coordinator, Career Option Center  | 01 27 2010 12:07:47 +0000
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The basic issue is of accepting educational institutions as genuinely 'profit-making institutions'. The government and the Indian public as well need to accept the idea that educational activities should also be accepted as an ethical profitable-making enterprise. If that is done along with sensible regulation, then deemed universities could have continued to contribute. But faulty regulation and corruption by officials of the regulatory authorities in nexus with devious businesspeople led us to a situation where the fine idea of deemed universities was degraded into a laughable one.


By Azhar Kazmi, Professor, King Fahd University of Petroleum & Minerals  | 01 23 2010 21:52:27 +0000
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Deemed universities help to make up for the insufficient universities or educational institutions, that government alone can't do it alone. Ideally a government's job is to govern the country and to manage only those which are related to run the country.

Why education can't be a business, when everything else including places of worship are also allowed to  do business? The problem is, government is not able to enforce the required standards for a deemed university. Its not right on government's part to close whatever they fail to control or govern.

Even if the government decides to close for the reasons for which we are not privy to, then government should first provide a safe transition of everyone who is dependent on these existing deemed univeristies.

Thanks Ms. Sarika for referring me this.


By Raghu Kastury, Principal Consultant & Head of Strategic Business Unit - Retail & Distribution, Sundaram Infotech Solutions Limited  | 01 23 2010 16:00:44 +0000
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