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Industry : Equity Research/AnalyticsFunctional Area : Equities(Markets)
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This debate is in relation to Topics like "Behavioural Finance" or "Efficient Market Hypothesis Developed by Eugene Fama"
 
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Tips Vs Analysis (Any kind of like Fundamental or Technical)
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Let me share few thoughts why people invest in India......

The first reason is the India's fastest growing population, government investment in the country's infrastructure is soaring and corporate earnings in India are growing at an astounding 35% annual rate.

So this excites people to invest in the stock market......    


By Rashmi Patil, Financial services  05 12 2010 08:35:51 +0000
 
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Urvish your debate is not giving any proper information that what do you want to ask. If you are asking about "WHAT ATTRACTS OR DRIVES INVESTORS TO INVEST IN MARKET" then you didn't write suitable answer for choosing. let be discuss:-

Investor word used for a person who are interested to invest his saving in proper manner to get risk free maximum return. And in present scenario old methods of investing money are not providing high returns i.e. FDs, PPF, Post office schemes etc. You know these methods are unable to beat even inflation rate of India(deep topic). 

You are given two choices TIPS & Analysis. Both are same kind of think in general view. According to your own example you have invested your money only for TIPS but on which basis TIPS are coming from?? Again Analysis! Broking company told you that their executive will provide you analysis part in the form of TIPS nothing else. But it doesn't mean that you will invest without any background knowledge of company because you can ask for analysis report on which basis they are confident to provide precise report(TIPS) to u.

The Answer of your question is EXPECTATION OF HIGH RETURN ATTRACTS THE INVESTORS TO INVEST IN MARKET. Now can add or move my argument on any side..............

 


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  05 11 2010 15:45:57 +0000
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yes off course, india has a growing market so everybody invest here,


By puneet , Manager Admin  | 05 19 2010 17:34:45 +0000
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Investments in stocks is an Insurance by basic definition of contingent claim investment, insurance against loss in value of currency, insurence against contingent claims etc;.

Behavioral finance theories of Khanemann and Trvesky of relational expectations go counter to Von-Nuemann-Morgenstien's rational expectations model. The latter depend on utility of the investor where as the former depends on relative factors of the environment.

Efficient market hypothesis explains that the price of a stock reflects all the information available on the stock at that point in time.

 


By Mathew Cherian, Research Associate/Analyst, Western Michigan University  | 05 15 2010 08:14:23 +0000
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Mam : Urvish : Practically there are dedicated sites to discuss Stocks and its market. Even there, one may not reveal his/her technique of "investing" in details. As I told U : gaining / loosing here are routine.

One may even change strategies say daily or weekly or monthly.

We'll be glad and proud if U could learn here about the market. But, postings in 'debate' form has some problem too.

However, when U have interest, U may read some renowned books and some journals too.

Another point : in my thought, if personally U dont invest in this market, U may not get the real feelings, joy or sorrow - rather say, ur knowledge may not be time-tested. Last : keep investing - remain invested. Warning : this is a high risk market.


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 05 13 2010 03:10:03 +0000
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@Asoke Sir....I totaly agree with you that I am a fresher but I may never invest in stock market without my personal Analysis over the Brokers analysis....Like @Vipin Sir told I agree to have made mistake in specifing the options It should have been "Self Analysis"So can we consider "Drivers" as unfair trading brokers who tend to spread rumours like one of ICICI bank If i am not worng.

The bottom line I Want to convey is that there is a lack of "Educated investor" coz of which there lies Inefficiencies(Under or over Valuations of stocks) and hence we can say that there are less number of Arbitragers in the Indian Stock Markets...

@Rashmi Ma'm....I would agree to what you said but the thing is a very less amt or say an Insignificant amt of investors know abt the analysis you conveyed...

Please correct me If I am wrong any were it may be because of My lack of knowledge of market or news.It is just I am here to learn so please Co-operate.


By Urvish Pankajkumar Subodh, Guest Lecturer (Economics), H.L.College of Commerce- H.L. Institute of Commerce.  | 05 12 2010 19:40:46 +0000
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Tips ... ? Investing scarce money in an un-certain market called Stock-market armed with only tips  ?

U r a fresher ... so many veterans gained / lost their fortune in Stocks. This market may not be 'described' like this ... !! Even one may not venture to explain the "drivers" .. !


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 05 12 2010 17:13:00 +0000
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Yes, even i feel the most of the retail investors in todays mkt are not well educated in terms of share mkt and mostly are driven towards this kind of investment by looking their peers/friends or tips to make some quick and easy money. 

Cheers!!


By Manish N Chugh, Officer Trainee, Stock Holding Corporation of India ltd.,  | 05 12 2010 14:12:36 +0000
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Yes exactly..

Is it that this days the trend that is what i say. Like there is lack Self evaluation which leads to over and under valuation of stocks?


By Urvish Pankajkumar Subodh, Guest Lecturer (Economics), H.L.College of Commerce- H.L. Institute of Commerce.  | 05 11 2010 16:33:42 +0000
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What I exactly am trying to find out is for Small scale investors like those who earns about 20-30k Rs. a months saves and invests.

The point is many of them just invest on the basis of tips and do not try to access the information on the company for instance Annual reports. which means they blindly trust on Brokers.


By Urvish Pankajkumar Subodh, Guest Lecturer (Economics), H.L.College of Commerce- H.L. Institute of Commerce.  | 05 11 2010 16:09:06 +0000
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In India(Our country) I believe household or small scale investor work or invest more on the basis of tips and hence lose out alot of HARD earned money... Also young people like me who have got a less knowledge about how the market reacts tend to do the same thing. Why cant we be more precise if we want to invest a hard earned money into market meaning there are more efficient ways to invest in a company. This will help out to work markets to be more efficient i.e. market will not react to rumours and will react to the publicly available information. This will save a lot of losses caused in-relation to investment on the basis of "TIPS" by the brokers. I do not mean that brokers give incorrect information but at times they tend to take an undue advantage of the lack of knowledge of the investors.


By Urvish Pankajkumar Subodh, Guest Lecturer (Economics), H.L.College of Commerce- H.L. Institute of Commerce.  | 05 11 2010 15:12:17 +0000
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Rashmi your argument is right but you are not saying for tips whereas you are talking about analysis. It is a part of analysis which you have written although made by investors or by any broking house.

Let say example for all experienced supporting TIPS if your broker told you that i will provide you TIPS but you wont get any profit then please tell me How many investors goes for trading? NO ONE

But the actual position is that broking house always saying to retail investor that "INVEST YOUR MONEY, WE(our co.) HAVE GREAT ANALYST SO THAT WE WILL PROVIDE YOU TIPS & YOU GET HIGH RETURN OF YOUR INVESTMENT" tell me if i am wrong.

And i supporting again the side that any investor go for higher return or profit not for any other thing.

In Short, TIPS are the part of ANALYSIS.......   


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  | 05 12 2010 15:01:36 +0000
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Urvish i got your point. you are right but you mentioned here ANALYSIS rather than SELF ANALYSIS. Because broker provide TIPS on the basis of his ANALYSIS. But still answer same that Expectation of high return turn investors to invest in market although they believe blindly or not.

And please don't invest in market blindly without any study as per my view.... Go for SIP etc...


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  | 05 11 2010 16:17:19 +0000
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