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Created by : Chandan Roy, Creative, J Walter Thompson  | 06 13 2008 04:56:39 +0000
Industry : Advertising/PR/MR/EventsFunctional Area : Branding(Sales & Marketing)
Keywords : Time Kills Brand People
Activity:  589 views;  last activity : 07 06 2010 20:18:09 +0000

I always wonder why brands fail or succeed. Why once popular brand ultimately fails. With right staff and savvy branding professionals brands can sustain different business climates,does mismanagement kills them or is it with time that every brand becomes extinct due to relationship of brand n consumer fades.  

Did people put this brands into graveyard or was it simply time? Let's fight it out.

 
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People kill brands more than the calendar. Think of brands that have withstood time: Rolex, Tiffany, Polo, BMW, Coke, even Tide in the soap arena. They all deliver on their promises to consumers. It's just much harder to launch a new brand in today's cluttered marketplace. Note: Harder but not impossible.

If people do not manage their brands well,time will kill them

Sarada


By Sarada M, Senior HR Generalist  07 07 2008 06:07:57 +0000
 
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Today time is precious. Any thing is purchased by seeing their availability in the market with ready spares and service availability. All previous brands have almost shut their back ups so people have no other go than to choose the current market products with ready availability. All branded produces/ producers have earned so much that they bother less of public grievances and hence are getting out of market. One has to move with time as today every one is cautious of time and money. One is ready to buy material with less cost and use for a reasonable span and by discarding the same after that period want to buy a new one with latest technology as day by day technology is developing.


By N. NAGESHWARAN, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, M/s. KEC INTERNATIONAL LTD. (an RPG group)  10 13 2009 08:53:52 +0000
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A brand is developed keeping in mind the  target customer which changes with time. With time people evolve so does their self image , needs , functionality requirements etc. Mobiles can be a classic case. Contrary to earlier times they  had to re-invent themselves on the lines of functionality, chick, design etc. This also created an a opportunity for new brands to emerge & ones who could not adapt had a shorter PLC ( so to say)


By santosh kumar, Marketing Manager, AUTOMOBILE  | 03 11 2010 04:09:03 +0000
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Yes its people who kills the brand ....


By varsha , Head/VP/GM-Quality, frac  | 03 09 2010 16:28:00 +0000
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Of course, it's people who kill the brand. More than becoming a father or mother, it is important to raise the child and make him/her a mature, sensible and responsible citizen of the country. A brand does not become a brand by itself but has to be seeded, feeded, nurtured, medicated and brought up well to stand up and be counted.


By Mukul Bhartiya, Head-Sales & Marketing(Organic Food Business), Arvind Ltd.  | 01 14 2010 02:57:12 +0000
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good insight and feedback sarada, informative and supportive argument!!


By pruthviraja pande, Film maker, Fascinations communications  | 12 27 2009 06:43:58 +0000
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The life of a brand depends on how it is nurtured. There are so many brands which are more than 40 years still surviving, sometimes getting stronger.

It all depends on how u manage it.

Maintainance of quality, regular update, constant touch with customer about product care, Exp. Surf, Rin, regular availability in the market.


By malladi madhukumar, AGM -MKTG, Andhra Cements Ltd  | 12 27 2009 04:31:45 +0000
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It is the people who kills the brand the most but others are the producer/manufacturer, the competitor and the time which kills the brand!


By pruthviraja pande, Film maker, Fascinations communications  | 12 26 2009 06:56:27 +0000
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Every brand once it is created has a LIFE CYCLE. It has 4 stages  wHerein it grows then tanks before falling. The brand is managed by people who take conscious decisions which will result in either extending or shortening of the life cycle stages.


By santosh kumar, Marketing Manager, AUTOMOBILE  | 09 07 2009 10:29:59 +0000
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Yes i fully agree that people kills brand. First of all we should think, Why? One of the reason is brand is not upgraded and as per trend it is not moulded. You take the expample of Ambasador car. It was the the best model and comfortable car but after launch of Maruti they were not able to mould them selves as per market and today they are out of market. On every new lauch we need to mould our brand as per demand of the time. Once we does this no body can kill brand.   


By Mittal Shah, Sr. Manager - Sales & Marketing, Infratech Real Estate Pvt. Ltd.  | 09 03 2009 06:07:11 +0000
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Yes. . If we compare between People and time, its people who kills brands. If it's time that kills brands, the effect should have been be same for all brands?


By Shaju George, Facilities/Construction Manager, IBS Software Services (P) Ltd  | 05 15 2009 12:48:28 +0000
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it is people who kill the brands by not honoring what is committed


By Vinayarajan KV, Head/VP/GM-Sales, EP Tech  | 05 15 2009 10:44:41 +0000
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Yes Its people who kill brands...as time goes by people change their loyalties towards a brand and a product, Time has less to do with the killing of the brand...even in very less time people change their liking towards a brand....


By Jayant Vishnu, Art Director/Sr Art Director, Creative  | 05 15 2009 10:21:08 +0000
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Good debate.

People are more responsible for mature/ immature death of brand.To overcome time factor, modifications and improvements can be carried out, but to read psychology of people; really it is damm difficult


By Nitin M Aras, Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ODTIN Food Solutions Pvt Ltd  | 05 14 2009 17:49:04 +0000
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When brands are built based on values recognized by the masses, people will support them, generation after generation and time cant kill them.


By aditya ghare, Multimedia Designer & Developer, Final Edit  | 05 14 2009 15:19:16 +0000
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It is definitely people who kill brands and not time. Regardless of how good a brand is, once something new hits the market people just rush to try it and this happens all the time.


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  | 05 14 2009 13:10:20 +0000
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Shaju you are absolutely correct. It is people who kills brand and not time.


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  | 05 14 2009 13:06:03 +0000
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People from both side of the fences!

Success, early on can make the guardians happy and lapse. Success can make the carriers of the brand to the masses arrogant and complacent.

In today's world its easy to purchase loyalty of the consumer! the word FREE can do wonders to a human mind! People are always game to try a new competitive brand. Why? Because it has been endorsed by their fav actor! Because it has attractive price! Because its has offered me a trip to the Bahamas! I mean there are a number of reasons to take your consumer away even if it is for that one time. Now in a population of 100 million plus one person in Mumbai being enticed away you can make your calculations as to how many like minded individuals are actually purchasing the product at that time pan India!!

People are responsible for the success and the downfall!


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 05 14 2009 12:35:12 +0000
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I completely agree with all the arguments putforth by Mr.Bhavesh.Indeed its the brand managers who are responsible for the survival of the brand.They need to keep coming up with new ways of sustaining the interests of the consumers with the brand otherwise the brand will die its natural death.


By Jayant Vishnu, Art Director/Sr Art Director, Creative  | 05 14 2009 11:22:22 +0000
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Hi Saravanan.

No one can underestimate the time factor that's why PEOPLE (Brand Managers) get paid to run the Brand as per Time, if they fails BRAND fails. Its all about creating more & more market shares for the Brand, when money matters NO EXCUSES are allowed. If People (Brand Managers) stuck, its his fault, you are not on the job to get stuck. Go & get help, ask questions, ask resources, don't you think its like "Rule of the Jungle" , kill for survival, to feed, to eat or to live where any excuses takes lives. If you love your Brand keep it alive. People can do this, not a Brand itself.


By Bavin , Stratergic  | 05 13 2009 14:31:00 +0000
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Hi Arnab. Its NOT about easy to say, its truth - a BRAND has to Run, walk, Talk, Smile & Sleep when BRAND Managers (People) ask for it. Brand does not move itself.

"consumers tend to be bored as time passes..." this is what PEOPLE (Brand Managers) need to do to keep it alive in consumer mindset. Why every few days/weeks/month there is a new Soap from LUX, why there is a new Mobile phone from Nokia, Motorola, Samsung or LG? To keep Brand alive, to keep it as fresh as always in consumers Brand. Every segment of business, products, services Brands keep coming with new ideas, advertising, added values & so on to meet the TIME (consumer mindsets).

Nokia has a Mobile phones in Local Indian languages just because to meet the (consumer need) as every Indian can not use English, but they still want to use a Mobile phone (because time requires it)

So People (Brand Managers) keeps Brand alive with Time, if they do not do it- Brand dies.


By Bavin , Stratergic  | 05 13 2009 14:13:43 +0000
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True Brands NEVER die. If PEOPLE (here People means Brand Maintaners) do not maintain it as per time.
Conclusion is "If you do not maintain your Car, you may have accident, or it will stop you somewhere, you will not able to reach at your target"- same issue with Brands - people keep Brand maintained time to time, if not its DEAD.


By Bavin , Stratergic  | 05 13 2009 14:03:19 +0000
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Take a example (good to talk by examples- right?) a The Bollywood Brand "AMITABH"
Today also he is the same as before (even stronger) BRAND, he is doing many roles like any other young star actors. Only reason this BRAND has managed with TIME, style, values & so more & more.

People (Himself or supporters) managed this BRAND using TIME change, like if you do not wear Night cloths, you can not have pleasing sleep, so you change a cloth as per time to manage YOU (a BRAND & a PEOPLE).

Keep BRAND alive , people requires to WORK as per TIME demands. So its PEOPLE (Brand Maintainers)
who kills it by not going by time.


By Bavin , Stratergic  | 05 13 2009 14:02:20 +0000
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People who do not invest the time in keeping the brand alive and relevent kills the brand eventually.


By Suhel Khan, General Manager- Global Sales & Marketing, CDN Solutions Group  | 01 19 2009 15:05:34 +0000
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Maintaining a brand is an on-going exercise. many brands fail because responsibility for the overall health and relevance of the brand is left in the hands of marketers. The real responsibility for maintaining and growing the brand lies in the board-room.
By Phil Parr, CEO/MD/Director Twentyfive Creative LLP  | 07 03 2008 08:11:47 +0000
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People can't test all the products which in introduced in the market, it take some time to be sucess, i say both people and time are killing the brand.
By Srihari Kolusu, Marketing Manager Reliance Communications Ltd.  | 06 27 2008 04:38:25 +0000
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People who build brands are mostly the ones who kill the brands.
By Vinod Yadav, Marketing Manager, L & T  | 06 16 2008 09:18:34 +0000
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its the people behind the Brands who are responsible to maintain,evolve the brands....
By Jambu Iyer, International Property Consultant  | 06 16 2008 02:15:21 +0000
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Dear Chandan,

Brands never die.There is just no organic death in the life cycle of brands. Instead, they are murdered by Brand Managers. They are lazy and they don't know how to maintain them after launching.


By Arvind Shastry, PR & Media Relations Manager, Ogilvy & Mather  | 06 14 2008 00:44:47 +0000
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I would like to support your views on this as its the people who if do not bring desired innovation in the product with the changing time which is undiversifiable risk,then brand fails.So thinking of innovation and change of time is the People's part.


By vibha Pathak, Asst. Manager/Manager -(NonTechnical), moksh  | 03 09 2010 16:03:21 +0000
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it's time which plays the major dactor and when combined with technology it is distructive. some classic examples, I am not promoting any brands. Colgate is a brand i have been seeing since my childhood is it the same? no it has changed a lot only with time and technology, from white to multicolour to grainy to with salt, these changes have taken place with time. the other examples like Fiat cars in India people did not kill the brand it just passed away with time and technology, they could not cope up with time and technology. Any thing that is good and keeps improving with time is always accepted by people, any thing out dated (again time is involved here) will have to make way for others.


By B.Mehernath , Marketing & Technical Head, Bondit Construction Chemicals Pvt. Ltd.  | 05 15 2009 10:38:22 +0000
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i agree with you sarada, but it is not the people alone who kills brand. rather, brand is killing the brand! i mean, a new brand with different quality / quantity is overtaking the existing brand and people and time are simply mute spectators to this change.still some brands are long lasting and don't forget that those brands are competent enough to face any challenges that are posed.


By jairaj shyam prasad, Production Manager, BOSCH Ltd  | 03 26 2009 13:46:05 +0000
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Changing Business Environment plays an important Role in the life of a Brand. Thus, either Repositioning or Re-Branding becomes a necessity. No Doubt, the decision to kill or Reposition a Brand is taken by the people, the reason more often than not is the Changing Business Environment i.e. Time


By Kujnish Vashisht, Partner/Principal/VP, Expedient Consultants  | 08 19 2008 04:54:30 +0000
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Vinod it is easy to say that people are responsible... Don't forget that consumers tend to be bored as time passes by with existing brands and such brands need to be reworked in the mind space they have created which again is a huge toil.So it is consumer, competition and time kills the brand as it is much harder to launch a new brand in today's cluttered marketplace.
By Arnab Sen, Media Planning, Mudra Communications  | 06 18 2008 07:30:51 +0000
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Don’t underestimate the time factor, the speed of today’s marketplace makes it tempting to go for a quick fix rather than crafting a brand for the long haul. People often manage their brands with the best practices of others and often stuck in the mediocre middle due to the need of hour.
By Saravanan Rajenan, PR & Media Relations Manager, Mudra Communications  | 06 16 2008 08:26:10 +0000
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