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Created by : Tanmay Gaur, Freelance Software Developer  | 05 06 2009 18:49:08 +0000
Industry : Radio, TV & FilmsFunctional Area : India(Markets)
Keywords : movies
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In Hollywood movies, we get to know the cast and crew details only after the end of the movie, while typical bollywood movies give all details in the beginning and says "The End" afterwards. Does that mean that in India we believe in holding credit even before we put in our show? Your ideas please

 
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Vivek, Nationalism is different for me. I do not belive we are mean. Instead, we are humble hard working people. Its only this way, that I feel proud to be Indian. I do not support India of mean minded people.

If you remember the Bollywood movie 'Mother India', the leading lady kills her mean son instead of getting him away or taking pride of him for being just. She took pride of being humble hard working.

On the subject Hollywood Vs Bollywood, what surprises me is that in spite of us being as hard working as Hollywood guys, we believe in the begining of it. Hollywood guys belive in the end. Beginning is hard in India, as we are much too crowded and the competition is thus hard. However, it should be the finish that we should bother about.


By Tanmay Gaur, Freelance Software Developer  05 07 2009 13:56:29 +0000
 
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I personally believe it is a matter of presentation/style if the cast and crew are mentioned at the start or the end of a movie. Whether it is Hollywood or Bollywood movies, these movies are so much advertised prior to the opening dates that all and sundry are well aware of the main actors, directors, etc. long before they are actually shown in theatres, etc. I don't think majority of persons care too much to know the entire cast and crew. All they are interested in is to see a good movie with their favourite actors.

I don’t believe movie makers in India are holding credit even before they put in the shows for the simple reason that the critics will come anyway after the movies are shown whether good or bad. A movie will not get credit until there is an audience and the performance by the cast and crew is determined.

THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  05 06 2009 19:57:10 +0000
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Having faced crowd everywhere we compete, we Indians believe in holding credit first and fast. Typical Bollywood movies, meant for us Indians, have all the actor, director, music, technical  information enlisted before starting the movie. Shouldn't they make the viewer appreciate the movie, before they introduce the cast and crew? But I think Bollywood think us indians a crowd, which will simply fly off after the movie, like a pack of honey bee. They will not be able to get to know their names. As we value brand SRK more to the piece of art he has been the part of. We hardly apreciate the good original work, unless its imposed on us. Aren't we more of a crowd, then people with real likes and dislikes. 


By Tanmay Gaur, Freelance Software Developer  | 05 06 2009 18:49:08 +0000
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Its there in all bollywood movie, problem is who give attention on it.
By Rajesh Kumar Thakur, Regional Sales & Marketing Manager, E G Gas Limited  | 04 22 2010 09:57:26 +0000
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In hollywood movies the content, story, acting etc are so good that the audience stays back to look at them but in Bollywood they just walk once story ends because they do not get content, story, acting

Moreover no one values the guys behind the scenes at all.


By Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance  | 04 22 2010 06:10:53 +0000
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Tanmay I don't think whatever you have mentioned in an article is totally correct. If you see lot of old Hollywood movies you will find that cast & crews name shows in the beginning of the movie. Now almost all  Hollywood movies show names & song at the end of the movie. 

Here I think the difference is same as of developed and developing. It is just like comparing USA & India 30 years ago and now. 30 years ago there was huge difference between India and US (Development point of view) but if you compare it now at present environment then you will find difference has narrowed down hugely. It is just like late arising for India.

Same is with movies. Bollywood always follows Hollywood. If you see last few years’ Indian movies then you will realize that we also started showing name at the end of the movie along with a song. There is nothing like taking credit in the beginning or at the end. It's just our perception or another way of thinking.  


By Deepak Agrawal, Consultant, Independent Consultant  | 09 12 2009 08:08:12 +0000
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No, i really do not think in this fashion, but what i would say is that its mainly towards making sure that the cast and the crew of the production is addressed for thier contribution towards the film. its not about giving the credit in the begining or the end but its about making the viewers aware of what they will see, the appreciation goes to the right people.

e.g. some names are not very well addressed in the promotional activities of any film like assistant director, dialogue writer etc ... so to make sure that they are credited for their work and if successful, awarded for their work by the local crowd. in India, being known in public is a big task, as everyone wants to do the same and compition is much higher and also we believe in being humble and honest which compells us to make sure that everyone who has worked towards making of the product is acclaimed for. after the movie no one is actually bothered to look at the credits. thats why we make sure that the crew is credited for their in the begining when people are attentive and at ease.

(on a lighter Note: I also have a different thought in mind that generally Indians are not punctual and so instead of movie starting late, the titles can go on and by the time titles get over, people would settle down... hehehe but this is off the record and only for fun sake argument. i still stick to my serious argument above)


By Ashish Gandhi, CEO/MD/Director, Creative Director, PostBox Communications  | 05 12 2009 12:24:10 +0000
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No, it doesn't mean that. It just means that in India we give importance to the people behind the scenes also, which Hollywood probably doesn't want to waste time over. Technical aspects of film making are important to Indians, whereas in the West, they just want to get on with the show!


By neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  | 05 09 2009 12:48:40 +0000
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I think i basically agree with what you say..but if you look at the whole scenario a little clinically, what i believe ,is that because the hollywood version of the the entire crew is not very well known to us thus making it easier to relate to their screen presence and so the titles befor ethe movie...!!!!


By sumeet walia, Factory Head, atmosphere impex  | 05 07 2009 17:19:45 +0000
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There is another fact,that looks so logical..

In Hollywood movies, titles at the end of movie gives positive indication that the movie is now neded.

Whereas in Bollywood movies,public knows very well when the end comes (when police enters the scene.when hero & heroine meet & start singing, etc...).There is not need of a specific signal...

I feel this also convincing...


By Prakash Saitwal, Technical Support Manager, Aditya Birla Management Corporation P. Ltd.  | 05 07 2009 13:21:45 +0000
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No I don't think that this is done to take the credit even before the verdict about a film is given or anything like that....Its just that hollywood guys have their own way of putting things up and we have our own way.....It has nothing to do with taking credit or anything like that.


By Radhakrishna Marar, Business Analyst, Oracle  | 05 07 2009 09:03:48 +0000
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In my opinion, logic behind this may be like this...

Hollywood movie goers like full returns on their money & they will see the movie till last minute. Hence titles are shown at the end.

About Indian movies, producers are damn sure that, once movie ends nobody will wait to read anything. Hence they show it in the beginning, so that public has no option but to read......

Hope this convinces you.....


By Prakash Saitwal, Technical Support Manager, Aditya Birla Management Corporation P. Ltd.  | 05 07 2009 07:11:51 +0000
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I think it is just a matter of going with the old routine as far as    Indian films are concerned. Many time it is boring to go through the presentation part. 

I like the Hollywood practice becuase I can quit at the end of the film. In some films there are good title song worth the wait.

When viewed at home, it is immaterial either way, as we can 'fast forward' the initial part.


By Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups  | 05 07 2009 06:54:26 +0000
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Its a matter of belief and tradition, in my opinion. Belief and tradition means; by Indian " Good start leads to good end" whereas in Hollywood "End wells that all well". 


By Nitin M Aras, Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ODTIN Food Solutions Pvt Ltd  | 05 07 2009 05:15:39 +0000
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It is like announcing your arrival..."LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PRESENTING AAG HI AAG WITH THE LEAD ROLE OF......". I agree that it is only a way presentation. There is no reason for comparison or digging meaning.

But Tanmay like many "elite" Indians has found the opportunity to tell that we Indian, as we are, are mean. Being yourself is never never being mean and that is the way we are. I am proud of being mean if it means being Indian.


By Vivek Singh, Project Manager, L&T  | 05 07 2009 03:35:47 +0000
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