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Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Collaboration(People Management)
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The need to govern, control or monitor all these things are there only for humanbeings, they are not found in any living things.

Why is it so. Is it the by product or side effect of our intellectual power? What has these controls brought to us - We still have the same rate of crime, violations of law and aggression as one would have if there were no controls at all (When we take into account total count - in terms of wars, organised crime, street fights, court cases and litigations etc)

Even animals kill each other but that is mainly for food and rarely for control or supremacy. And the current rate of destruction to life, physical harming and emotional disruptions due to heart breaks are far less for animals compared to the man in the so called governed and controlled and civised society.

Then why do we need this governance. With all this we still live in fear of terrorism etc, and the fears increase day by day as the nuclear technology progresses. We are used to governance so much that Its hard to imagine life without governance and controls. Initially we may have a lot of turmoil if there was no governance, but then it will settle down at one level and continue just like how the animals are coexisting (I mean whatever remaining after extinsion)

It sounds scary even to hear, read or write such a thought for that matter. But look at the direction the so called civilized world is progressing, if we were to do a performance measurement of this as a whole, then what do you rate the performance of the project civilization as? 

 
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Humanoids were social animals. Also, we are the first animals to be altruistic. While soical living gave protection from other animals, the (physically) weaker ones within the groups were dominated by the stronger ones. With passage of time ,we got rooted to the land for cultivation. We became society of mostly constant set of people and their off-springs. To protect the interest of the weaklings (mainly to propogate ones own genes), the intelligent ones among us developed the rule of law as against rule of brawn. Initially some people were more equal than the others but very slowly it has started becoming eagalitarian. My view is, Humans are work-in-progress and hence all the short-comings we see.

One caveat, the whole thing is from the selfish point of view of Humans to the exclusion of everything else. We could end up with a perfect Human society but with nothing else in it. Also the index for the Good Life of Humans seems to be the expansion and longevity of all Humans. Peace, Harmony are all part of this initiative. (Under no circumstance animals or plants or environment are given preference over Humans, at least not overtly).

Therefore my position is while we are progressing well on our objective (of harmony, peace and good life), it could be that we have set ourselves, inevitably, a self-defeating objective which would in the end would ruin the planet and us.


By Rengarajan Murali, CEO/MD/Director, IT Ware LLC  07 27 2009 13:09:04 +0000
 
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In essence, it is just old wine in new bottles. While debating on this, please do not mixup physical comforts and scientific advnaces that we use today and have fun with the fight or struggle we make to exist and survive as the purest form of creation.


By Raghu Kastury, Principal Consultant & Head of Strategic Business Unit - Retail & Distribution, Sundaram Infotech Solutions Limited  07 26 2009 11:48:45 +0000
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The compare is improper and not very relevant. Just to add, even in Jungle, there is fight for rule, super animal and their ruling area. This can be highly seen with streat dogs even.

Let it be animal or human being, for better living conditions, there has to be a monitoring system and control mechanism of activities.

When a group of elephants goes for roaming in fields, they always keep the kids in the middle and don't let them go out alone.

A group of deers always have a leader and many onlookers, monitors to advice them which side to go, to protect them from large animals.

Human has more intelligence power and ability to act quickly without fear. Animals have fear of loosing their group and family, human are not so worried on this point.

To overcome these extra ability of human being and control their action in favour and need of ours.

 


By Atul Kumar, `Confidential, Confidential  | 08 12 2009 13:15:05 +0000
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Intelligent life forms recognize the benefits of collective survival and synergy.But along with it comes the Ego!

Even in primates, where exists a level of intelligence and ego, we see the formation of groups as well as hierarchies and rules to follow.We also see the ego goading an individual to take over the reins of the group or try to raise its standing within the group.

In primates though, there is just one parameter of success - might is right.

We humans got more evolved and channeled our energies in various directions to enhance our standard of living and ensures our group's survival.

This happened because we redefined our parameters of success and put governance frameworks and monitoring & control to safegaurd these parameters.

Goivernance delivers confidence to individuals that they may pursue different vocations that may benefit the society without being afraid of being hurt by those who stick to the base 'might is right' instinct within us.

Since 'might is right' is a base instinct it cannot be eliminated but checked.So exceptions will always be there


By Dhananjay Raturi, Head of the Department, XYZ  | 07 26 2009 17:18:06 +0000
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hello Makarand, your views are good but i feel it is onesided.let's not forget we have evolved ourselves from animal stage and still some of those inheritent qualities has remained in the inner most core of our anatomy.Humans has got the one most powerful tool than any thing and that is brain.function of brain may be used to good / bad at a same time.if some are inhumans there should be some sort of control/governance which is required.finally don't forget "good" cannot be identified without a "bad".


By jairaj shyam prasad, Production Manager, BOSCH Ltd  | 07 26 2009 13:58:30 +0000
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Humans should be certainly monitored, governed and controlled still further.Inspite of we being human beings, still there are issues like terrorism,or the events that we hear in day-to-day news. There are both pros and cons in this matter.We have eventually improved a lot but at the same time,destruction also is at much in existence.There is no need for a person to kill another person.Does this mean that we have achieved civilisation .??


By Radha V, Project Lead, Confidential  | 07 26 2009 19:03:53 +0000
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Hello Jairaj,

It is sided purely from the view point of how animals who have one religion and different languages can still survive in a Jungle that is their home!! How many understand exactly what a ROAR says?? But the animals know exactly what to do!! Their life style is primitive, they do not have expensive wardrobes or cars to travel in, but still they LIVE and they live majestically! Each and every animal has a distinct characteristic and a defence mechanism in place! I am firmly of the opinion that though the life in a jungle maybe very uncertain, its definitely better!

Consider a Man in this jungle which is not concrete but natural, green and abundant! He has all the means to survive here. But he choses to reproduce! And he multiplies slower than most animals do. His main weapon is intelligence and understanding!! Whay he does is, he starts chopping the green and complicates his own living by entering an era of GLOBAL WARMING!! Why does this happen?? It happens because he wants to OUTDO himself!

When I make a basic comparision only based on intelligence, I still feel that because we have been gifted with these qualities we are our own undoing!! We need to be monitored, controlled and even led! Emotions present in us can make us completely RESPONSIBLE and NOBLE or completely IRRESPONSIBLE and EVIL!! See the difference in the attitudes of both! We are capable of both. Animals: NONE! Only one rule applies there, SURVIVAL of THE FITTEST!!

 


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 07 26 2009 18:08:05 +0000
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Interesting!!

In a similar debate earlier I had maintained that animals are better off than people. We have turned from humans beings to inhuman beings. Our intelligence has taken a beating bcause we have allowed oursleves to be governed by emotions that breed jealousy and contempt. We have allowed ourselves to be pressurised by peers. We are putting up a false bravado. An attitude that is not true to its form and its use. We are constantly engaging oursleves into ONE UP MANSHIP!! It is really crazy.

On the other hand, when we have pets at home, we try to control our pets and show off the breed and the training that the pet has undergone. Why?? If we go to a jungle safari which is the domain of wild animals, do they greet us with contempt and anger???? They are far more intelligent than we are. Their attitude is far superior. They look at us and seem to say that "I dont know you and lets keep it like that. If you try to harm me I will do the same".


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 07 26 2009 12:46:07 +0000
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