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Created by : Rajdeep Das, Construction-Heavy, Sobha Developers  | 02 06 2009 14:47:08 +0000
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Is it really important that construction organization to have PMP certification, but then without PMP all these days just with some basic skills a contractor and architects were doing great business, so what do you think Will PMP really help in construction?? share your views on this....

 
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PMP crdentials are issued only to those competent candidates who are well versed with PMBOK (Project Management Body of Knowledge), a practical, time tested and globally agreed standard.

And projects in construction industry are the most deserving ones which requrie skilled project management professionals to implement these best practices and standards in place. Hence PMPS are a value addition if recognized and utilized effectively in projects.


By M NITIN SHENOY, PMP, IPMA-D, CEng MICE, Manager  03 12 2009 04:46:31 +0000
 
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pmp is not reqd. as in const.industry nothing is in your hand everything are varible, labour, change ingovt. policies without inforation,strkes, shoratage of material,financal problems from financer such as bank,institite etc

result pmp is not going to help you in any respect. itis eye wash only


By ramesh r.ghorpade, Construction-General Building, jairaj construction  02 09 2009 16:12:17 +0000
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Think Projects: Think Big : Think Global: Think PMBOK....., The PMBOK guide would help professionals in many ways by highlighting the essential tools and techniques required to manage projects and achieve its objectives. I prioritize the best parts of PMBOK according to my knowledge. And before I start let us be very clear that PMBOK is structured for a project or group of projects of large scale and most importantly Global. And please do not forget PMBOK clearly mentions that not all the 47 processes are mandatory for all the projects, it purely depends on the type of the project and the organization that deals with it. 1. Define the project and its objectives (starts with high level and progressively elaborate) 2. Identifying ALL the stakeholders 3. Preparation of requirements documentation (Entire scope), 4. Most importantly – keeping record of assumptions and validating the assumptions frequently 5. Managing the team (from top executives to labors), Training the team, Rewards and recognition for the team 6. Manage stakeholders throughout the project, 7. Identify risks at an early stage and monitor and control it throughout the project 8. Developing and applying communication skills, Leadership skills, Soft skills 9. Awareness of cultural shock
By Jesuraj Thomas , PMP, Assistant Project Manager, Ministry Of Defense Saudi Arabia  | 04 05 2014 06:13:30 +0000
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Think Projects: Think Global: Think PMBOK. The PMBOK guide would help professionals in many ways by highlighting the essential tools and techniques required to manage projects and achieve its objectives. I prioritize the best parts of PMBOK according to my knowledge. And before I start let us be very clear that PMBOK is structured for a project or group of projects of large scale and most importantly Global. And please do not forget PMBOK clearly mentions that not all the 47 processes are mandatory for all the projects, it purely depends on the type of the project and the organization that deals with it. 1. Define the project and its objectives (starts with high level and progressively elaborate) 2. Identifying ALL the stakeholders 3. Preparation of requirements documentation (Entire scope), 4. Most importantly – keeping record of assumptions and validating the assumptions frequently 5. Managing the team (from top executives to labors), Training the team, Rewards and recognition for the team 6. Manage stakeholders throughout the project, 7. Identify risks at an early stage and monitor and control it throughout the project 8. Developing and applying communication skills, Leadership skills, Soft skills 9. Awareness of cultural shock


By Jesuraj Thomas , PMP, Assistant Project Manager, Ministry Of Defense Saudi Arabia  | 04 05 2014 06:12:42 +0000
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Think Projects : Think Big: Think Global: Think PMBOK.        

The PMBOK guide would help professionals in many ways by highlighting the essential tools and techniques required to manage projects and achieve its objectives. I prioritize the best parts of PMBOK according to my knowledge. And before I start let us be very clear that PMBOK is structured for a project or group of projects of large scale and most importantly Global. And please do not forget PMBOK clearly mentions that not all the 47 processes are mandatory for all the projects, it purely depends on the type of the project and the organization that deals with it. 1. Define the project and its objectives (starts with high level and progressively elaborate) 2. Identifying ALL the stakeholders 3. Preparation of requirements documentation (Entire scope), 4. Most importantly – keeping record of assumptions and validating the assumptions frequently 5. Managing the team (from top executives to labors), Training the team, Rewards and recognition for the team 6. Manage stakeholders throughout the project, 7. Identify risks at an early stage and monitor and control it throughout the project 8. Developing and applying communication skills, Leadership skills, Soft skills 9. Awareness of cultural shock


By Jesuraj Thomas , PMP, Assistant Project Manager, Ministry Of Defense Saudi Arabia  | 04 05 2014 06:11:32 +0000
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Something is better than nothing, & certification is useful for your social & financial growth.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Zonal Manager / Sr. Project Manager ( Civil Engineering), Kumar Properties  | 03 01 2011 05:09:13 +0000
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You need to have some type of project management knowledge for development structure to enter this field. If you don't at least have the basic knowledge how can you move forward when these type of basic steps are used for implementation? It will be very difficult to train someone that has very little knowledge in the addition to training persons who are more advanced than he or she is. Of course each person cannot be expected to have the same knowledge, it would be pure insanity to ask of that. However, what is a fair demand from any company CEO, company supervisor, or human resources department is requiring there to be an education requirement met by the employee candidate BEFORE applying. It is quite common place here in the United States because we are very competitive for who we hire, what we do with our performance, and the quality of our work at the end of the day. That will never change as long as the men and women continue to keep pushing for high achievement and success. I personally believe there needs to be that dividing line between the those that have education and those that do not. Some may consider it ego however I consider it to be wisdom and experience wrapped together with my Doctorate education which I am obtaining, soon to be achieving - March 2012.
By Sue Elvins, Project Management and Web Development  | 02 12 2011 11:14:00 +0000
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at assures safety measures are taken, quality have checked and bring faith on construction.
By HEMANT VERMA, Marketing and Branding, NAVNEET PUBLICATION INDIA LTD.  | 09 07 2010 15:10:17 +0000
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Not all PMP's are good project managers & not all non PMP's are bad project managers. However, PMP certification is a pre requisite to many PMC's now a days...therefore, A PMP surely has an edge over non PMP for sure. Not all certification helps in construction because it depends on the implimentation of your skill inline with the guidelines of acquire certification.
By Dr.Zubair Irshad, Project Management/ Construction management professional  | 09 07 2010 05:46:39 +0000
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PMP's have professional project management expertise to deliver projects successfully


By Tharakaraman Janaarthanan, CEO/MD/Director, FaasTrackk  | 09 07 2010 04:56:24 +0000
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Baljit wonderful argument. I support you. Even I think PMP certificate is important because ever though you are talented you need some proof/certificate to show you are specialized is that. That too in India certificates has more value. So it is better to have it.  


By Anjali Sinha, Construction-Heavy, Sobha Developers  | 02 05 2010 11:59:04 +0000
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I think given the way Construction companies in India function, there is a dire need for them to  set their house in order. There is hardly any project that gets completed within time, budget and scope, something that PMP emphasizes on. By acquiring the knowledge propounded in PMBOK, construction professionals will be able to identify the glaring gaps in their approach to project management.  And by invoking best practices in project management the industry as whole will benefit immensely in terms of getting organized and tightening up their act. This will go a long way in earning them respect of their patrons. as well.


By Baljit Singh Sidhu, MBA-Sys, PMP, VP-IT, Panchshil Group  | 01 18 2010 04:42:21 +0000
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Qualified Project Professional are understand the essence of project. they know what is project and how deliver. they are converse with PM tools to optimising resources and there better control. Risk which is more important in current scenorio, managining the risk with technical manner will help the project.
By Murlidhar Soni, IPMA-D, Sr. Engineer - Projects  | 11 03 2009 10:38:47 +0000
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Yes I definitley believe PMP adds to a companies assets when assessing project sustainability and success. While the basics reman more or less the same, PMP certification initiates ones mind to think beyond. Your "otherwise CONSTRUCTION mind" is trained only to think of scenarios in Construction, but having that PMP certificate, opens your mind to look for opportuniies to similar situations from other industries also !

Things around us are not LOCAL anymore, not domain dominated. THINK GLOBAL! World borders are shrinking....Management is the future. And the future is revolving around the globe.

Amit.


By Amit Vakharia, VP-Projects, Ashar Realty Pvt Ltd  | 10 29 2009 15:49:37 +0000
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Dear Heman,

Do you know what Mr. T.N.Sheshan has done alone? He was not a, so called, team man.

Uday


By Uday Kundargi, ENGINEERING CONSULTANT - HYDROCARBONS  | 09 16 2009 18:28:35 +0000
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PMP is must in construction industry .

Since Our construction industry has very bad history of handling the projects.

Right people only can do right job, way is always different from right way


By Dhanaraman , Project Manager, CRN  | 03 31 2009 06:48:04 +0000
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It may not be logical to note that PMP certificate is not required at all. As it is being mentioned that it is a tool, We may have to use the processes & procedures to the best possible extent required for the job to be done. With the tools available one can solve our problems and also we can create new problems. By effectively controlling the scope by having change management procedures, we can control the Cost,Time over runs. Some of the procedures are are quite useful. whether U have certification or not if one follow certain principles scruplously, can complete the projects. After all there are  number of ways a project can be completed.PMBOK way is one of them.  


By Srinivas S.Mantrala, PMP, Executive Engineer, A.P.S.Police Housing Corporation  | 03 30 2009 15:32:31 +0000
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Yes I too noticed only while undergoing the process of certification, the importance of it. Earlier i used to have the similar opinions but when u are with open mind u too can accept it. Definetely, the certification will help your confidence level go up and which will help u in successful completion of projects within in Cost and Time, Quality constraints. This can also be achieved through experience also. but the level of confidence will be more if u are a certified PMP.  


By Srinivas S.Mantrala, PMP, Executive Engineer, A.P.S.Police Housing Corporation  | 03 26 2009 10:17:02 +0000
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For sure it is going to help in formulating plans and developing ideas. These certifications are given to people who have capabilities of running a project and who know the different stages of project. For gentlemen who have been under the sun for long may or may not take these certifications as they might have gone through all the stages many times in their life and know it by heart but for people who are starting or are in initial stages of their career, I believe these are very helpful.


By Mohammad Shariq, Planning Engineer, Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation  | 03 11 2009 11:43:22 +0000
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At least for better career prospects, PMP certified professional would have added advantage....


By Pragya Kothari, Construction-Heavy, DLF  | 02 27 2009 09:56:23 +0000
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Basically PMP Certification confirms the knowledge about Project Management Process. And Definetely if an individual is certified clients can rely that the one is having the thorough understanding of the process associated with projects.  I believe thea the process remains same irrespective of the type of the project/industry.


By Y.S. Mahammad Irshad, Head/VP/GM-Corporate Planning/Strategy, Turner International Middle East  | 02 23 2009 09:40:20 +0000
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project management in construction is must for successful completion of a project.Proper management can be maintained by the project head only if he is aware of management tips.By proper management only project head can achieve a success ful and profitable project .Because proper management give proper planning.And proper planning minimises wastage of labours,materials, quality,quantity and time.


By sandeepbansal , Construction-Construction Management, CONSCIENT INFRASTRUCTURE LTD  | 02 08 2009 13:20:42 +0000
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The Companies who are doing well WITHOUT these type of certification is taking the help of consultancies who are equiped with these type of certification and experiences.


By Tauqeer Ahmad, Project Execution Planning, Apex, N.Delhi  | 02 08 2009 07:45:25 +0000
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Yes certainly PMP certification has huge impact on sucess of any project , if and if only it's processess are religiously implemented . Infact you need to tailor make the same in certain processess and take only relevant ones .


By SRINIVAS CHADA, Consultant, STRATEGIC PLANNING & COST ENGINEERS , MUMBAI  | 02 06 2009 16:55:20 +0000
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Yes i agree with Mr. Rajdeep on this, with PMP one can rest assure that the project will be a hassel free one and one will have less headache for the owner, as everything will be taken care by the construction project management team at the beginning and then by the manager.. so yes PMP certification really helps in construction.


By Devarajan Venkataraman, Construction-Heavy, DLF  | 02 06 2009 14:49:04 +0000
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According to me yes one needs a PMP certification these days, as better project management helps in less chances of the project going wrong and will be effective in cost cutting of the project and achieving the deadline at the right time, so yes organizations with PMP certification are doing some great business, and most of them prefer those who have PMP certification as they will have the habit of completing the project with the alloted time and budget.


By Rajdeep Das, Construction-Heavy, Sobha Developers  | 02 06 2009 14:47:08 +0000
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Well, in PMBOK it is clearly stated its is the mechanics of project management, what makes a project successful is the combination of Mechanics and the art of project management. in the construction industry their is a lot difference of opinion and the methodology followed has a huge variations in project management process between organizations.


By Narasimha (PMP), Project Manager, Soham Renewable Energy Pvt Ltd  | 09 07 2010 07:26:09 +0000
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I really agree with this.... it's very tough to simulate with what we plan with out executions
By R K Suman, Asst. Manager, Reliance Energy  | 09 16 2009 18:18:31 +0000
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Certificates do not make a project successful. knowledge of Project management and it's correct application do. the certificate is good for decorating one's CV. As a matter of fact, the PMP certification is given importance mostly in the IT industry and not in the Construction industry. That should tell a lot!


By Basab Ghosh, General Manager (Operations), Saipem India Project Ltd.  | 08 17 2009 08:46:36 +0000
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To make a sucessfull project the most important factor is Communication and clarity of Objectives. Even there are PMP's the basic character of the People should be to work as a Team member not as an individual. And hence PMP can give insight to knowledge base. But the attitude of people is very important for the sucessfull completion of any project and for this Communication plays an important skills. To have these qualities PMP alone will not be enough but continual skill upgradation in soft skills and top management commitment is very much necessary


By Heman , Corporate Quality & Safety,Health and Environment (QSHE) Manager, almabani General Contractors, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia  | 04 06 2009 06:45:40 +0000
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Hi,

Please, all who support PMP in construction can please answer if Construction managers/planning managers can do without a certification as PSP for which the requirements are:  Part I  is Basic Knowledge. It consists of multiple-choice questions concerning the basics of planning and scheduling.  •  Part II  is Planning and Scheduling Principles. It consists of multiple-choice questions involving planning and scheduling scenarios.  •  Part III  is a Practical Exercise. This part entails answering a series of multiple-choice questions concerning various aspects of a single problem.  •  Part IV  is a real-time Communications Exercise. It is graded on a pass/fail basis. It requires the candidate to write the equivalent of a one-page typewritten memorandum to simulate reporting on planning and scheduling analysis to a project manager, explaining the issues and proposing a solution regarding a given problem.

Regards

Angyan


By Angyan P. Jagathnarayanan, Director, JUMP  | 04 02 2009 12:32:53 +0000
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I will like to state some facts that many are not using in this argument. Let me start by saying that PMP is required but how far is it going to help construction industry is a not clear. I have already stated that PMP is only PMBOK knowledge and its language and no more. It is the skill that needs to be used to put PMP to manage projects.  I will still say that all the PMPs in the construction industry are not clear about Contract, Safety, Planning and Scheduling and if they are having a good idea they must be having extra qualifications like PSP, CCE, EVP, CCM, and be part of CMAA, AACE international, and also know FIDIC.

I am sure all PMPs in the construction industry are aware of the fact that Project Management as per PMBOK is generic and Project Management is only a small part of Construction management. From my view point based on the experiences I have had in the construction industry and the use of tools and techniques by the industry in India I will ask all PMPs to come forward and develop planning  and scheduling and also contract management, in the place of this argument.

 

I will like to call this argument as “Is contract and Construction Management needed in the construction industry?”

 

 


By Angyan P. Jagathnarayanan, Director, JUMP  | 03 31 2009 01:44:48 +0000
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PMP certification is needed by big construction groups in order to facilitate communication and management. It serve as a language that will make communication easier among those who knows. However, at this time of recession where affordability is low, margins are easily eaten up by high costs, those companies that can manage their projects using local skilled labor and supervisors who are not familiar with project management as prescribed by PMP will have abetter chances of success.

 

PMP certification or knowledge in project management is just a tool. One still has to go through the process of getting the project activities done at the least cost and time. One will also have to have the resources and skill to tap the best skilled labor and the cheapest materials and resolve problems the cheapest and fastest way and all in accord with the approved plans.

 

This is comparable to a trade skill where certification is only useful if the person is not yet known to you but once he has shown his expertise or knowledge, you dont actually need his certification. This is also true if a friend will vouch for his skills or when he is agreable to be tested.

 

Another example where PMP certification may even be a problem is when a newly hired project manager will insist to manage the project as prescribed by PMP and his people or the organization he will manage does not know the PMP-way.


By Jimmy N. Chu, Lecturer, University of the Philippines Manila  | 03 30 2009 05:05:03 +0000
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PMP is only knowledge based on PMBOK and will not in any way help in construction management application if one is not following The Construction Extension of the PMBOK. PMP is only the starting point and if one has to go forward certifications like CCC, CCE, EVP, PSP and may be one has to see CMAA or other bodies. If any PMP can help me to select a good software package for construction management then I will say that he has the skill and has moved forward. 


By Angyan P. Jagathnarayanan, Director, JUMP  | 03 26 2009 04:14:12 +0000
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I agree that this type of certification is unnecessary if the professional at hand has had sufficient experience in the construction business to know the processes, procedures and deadlines.


By Reinaldo Pinheiro, CEO/MD/Director, RIP, Lda.  | 02 08 2009 12:19:16 +0000
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Yes! You are right there are different type of learning process out of which learning by experience is also one of the method but experience and textual learning with softwares skills makes a good combination. Hence the company who are doing well without these type of certification will have to be very experienced while the companies having these type of certification need not to have very long experiences.


By Tauqeer Ahmad, Project Execution Planning, Apex, N.Delhi  | 02 08 2009 08:03:05 +0000
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agree 100%.....I have seen so many people with no project management certification rather one requires in-depth functional knowledge and expertise in construction domain to work as a Project Manager....


By Nand Jha, Construction-Heavy, Sobha Developers  | 02 06 2009 15:16:29 +0000
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No i don't agree with both of them, as it is seen with so many companies without PMP certification which is doing very well, it is not mandatory that one needs PMP certifacation to boost his business or the quality of standard that they give, it is just they are practicing the same thing all these years and now people are terming the same thing with construction project management and all, so PMP is just the technique which was already being followed, so special certification of PMP is not needed according to me....


By Sudeep Tarafdar, Senior Consultant, IBM  | 02 06 2009 14:50:35 +0000
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