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Started by : Kavitha Shankar, Sr/Principal Coresspondent, ABC   04 21 2011 06:53:57 +0000
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A petition was filed today in the Delhi High Court seeking removal of Anna Hazare from the drafting committee of Lokpal Bill alleging he was found guilty of corruption relating to the administration of a trust run by him!! Even the Bhushan Cd is declared untampered by the Govt.. So now we have no non-corrupt person left whom we can follow... What should we do now?

 

 

 
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1 A leader should come out of we common people
2 INC is playing a big game, let the revolution continue and enlarge
3 NOTHING NEW! ONLY REVENGE CAN BE EXPECTED FROM CORRUPT POLITICIANS & BUREAUCRATS.
4 Pity the mind that can think this way
5 Ignore Congres propoganda
6 NOTHING NEW! WHY CORRUPT POLITICIANS & BUREAUCRATS WOULD SPARE HIM?
7 Intension of the people may be good or bad but result never should be wrong
8 Anna's character is beyond doubt.
9 Father son philosophy take Annaji under corruption aligation
10 Anna should quit
11 May be
12 Anna is corrupted Indeed
13 Again issue for Lokpal Bill
14 IT IS EXPECTED
15 In this Country Only true people give Exam
16 In this Country Only true people give Exam
17 Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee
18 Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee
19 Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee
20 Demand Jan Lokpal Bill to be discussed in Jantar Mantar
21 Demand Jan Lokpal Bill to be discussed in Jantar Mantar
22 Demand Jan Lokpal Bill to be discussed in Jantar Mantar!
23 Need to Remain Focused...
24 Need to Remain Focused...
25 complete takeover.
26 Indians are incapable of ruling at all
27 A LEADER SHOULD COME OUT OF WE COMMON PEOPLE.....
28 The bane of corruption
29 IGNORE THESE ALLEGATIONS CONCENTRATE ON LOKPAL BILL DRAFT
30 Agenda

A leader should come out of we common people

idea posted by Kavitha Shankar Sr/Principal Coresspondent, ABC

If someone amaong us could take the lead perhaps things would become quite easy. Though it would be risky and would need a lot of support but that will be the best.

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by Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 08 22 2011 12:28:27 +0000

Punjab BJP MLA Khurana arrested in Bribe Case


BJP MLA Raj Khurana in Punjab was arrested by the CBI for allegedly taking bribe. His house was raided on Wednesday night. He was sent to CBI custody for two days. The incident came to light when the CBI team led by DIG Mahesh Aggarwal raided the residence of Khurana in Sector 39 in Chandigarh on Wednesday night and also questioned a government employee Devinder Singh, who is also the Chief Parliamentary Secretary (Finance) in the Parkash Singh Badal-led SAD-BJP alliance government. In fact, Devinder had allegedly demanded money on behalf of Khurana to offer it to a Punjab minister for some official work. However, the CBI has not found any incriminating document from Khurana's residence.

Khurana represents Rajpura constituency. Both Khurana and Devinder were arrested under Prevention of Corruption Act. The case came few days after Sohan Singh Thandal, Chief Parliamentary Secretary (CPS) in the SAD-BJP alliance, was sentenced by the Mohali Court for having disproportionate assets.

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by Amit Pandey, Embedded Engineer, Electronics  | 08 22 2011 10:27:10 +0000

Know Your Sonia

http://janataparty.org/sonia.html

All the facts along with govt documents revealing truth

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by Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 08 22 2011 09:59:41 +0000

Punjab BJP Ministers in bribery case

While the Central Bureau of Investigation on Monday questioned two Bharatiya Janata Party Ministers of the Punjab Cabinet, Manoranjan Kalia and Swarna Ram, in the Rs.1.5-crore bribery case related to a controversial land deal, the arrested MLA, Raj Kumar Khurana, resigned as Chief Parliamentary Secretary, citing “moral grounds.” Mr. Kalia, who holds the portfolios of Industries, Local Bodies and Urban Development, was accompanied by counsel when he reached the sector 30 office of the CBI, where a restive crowd of BJP workers raised slogans in his favour, against the CBI and the Congress high command. Senior officers of the agency questioned the Minister for nearly an hour. Later, talking to journalists at the headquarters of the party’s State unit here, Mr. Kalia emphasised that he was neither avoiding the investigations nor was he named in the FIR registered in the case. He said he told the interrogating team that he had no knowledge about the case and had never dealt with the matter in any capacity.

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INC is playing a big game, let the revolution continue and enlarge

idea posted by Kaushik Ghosh Senior IT Officer, Minstry of Defence, Govt. of India
Indian National Congress and the ministry are playing a big game with the Jan Lokpal Bill. The high command is verbally supporting and praising Anna Hazare so that it seems that they are transparent and willing to pass the bill. But they are trying to make people believe in the ineffectiveness of this bill by pointing out corruption in civil society representatives. They are sabotaging the voice against corruption.
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It is just a political game. I don't understand why people does not attack the problem which is raised rather attacking the person who is raising a problem. Anyway no one in this country is not corrupt (including new born baby)

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by Gurleen Kaur, CMD, GKM IT & Engineering  | 06 10 2011 19:15:29 +0000

If someone raises his voice against corruption the government and its official just get after him and start finding ways to put down his image. That's really surprising. Congress has not changed over the years. I would also request not to call it INC-Indian National Congress as it does not exist now, it is Congress-I.

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by sudhakar , BUSINESS CONSULTANT  | 07 06 2011 08:59:54 +0000

Remember INC has scored a century and remain not out. ICC leader is an active member. And above all Soniaji is praising Anna.This is just a high drama.Dr Subramania swamy is ready with 250 page charge sheet to sue Sonia. Result will b declared in 2014. As Rightly said by our P.M that Advaniji has to wait for 3 more years. Let us not wrack our brain. And b a spectator and watch the fun.

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NOTHING NEW! ONLY REVENGE CAN BE EXPECTED FROM CORRUPT POLITICIANS & BUREAUCRATS.

idea posted by PS Dhingra CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants

It always happens in politics and public life. If some one takes up cudgels against the corrupt people, the corrupt persons try to lable that fellow also as corrupt and make his life hell. That too when there seems to be a clear conspiracy between the politicians, bureaucrats and media also.

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by Ajay Kumar Khaitan, Consultant  | 08 22 2011 09:45:35 +0000

END OF CONGRESS & FAKE GANDHIs

Anna has Support of more than 90% of the Indian Mass, any further mistake by the Congress/UPA Govt over the Corruption / Jan Lokpal Bill Issue can ignite the Nation & the Congress & Fake Gandhis will be finished, I can see Early Elections around December 2011-January 2012

CORRUPTION is the Most relevant topic of the day, the whole World is suffering with this disease, including India.... Greed is the mother of all Corruptions... We must enlighten Ourselves Spiritually to Eliminate / Remove Corruption from the Core of our Hearts.....

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by Ajay Kumar Khaitan, Consultant  | 08 21 2011 14:35:33 +0000

BRING BACK BJP FOR VIBRANT INDIA

Dear All

Besides, Anna Hazare's Jan Lokpal Bill, I am also concerned about Removal of Congress & Installation of BJP at the Centre, As soon as BJP will come into the Power, Corruption will Vanish in no time.... All development & Pending works of Vajpayeeji will be started on War footing.....

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by Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 08 20 2011 10:38:26 +0000

We should oppose all those, who try to defame People...

Nobody is defaming Anna....Justice Sawant's report is not fake. If it is, then why isn't Anna challenging it in a court?


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Pity the mind that can think this way

idea posted by Ravindra Sharma Managing Consultant, CHEF-India

Truly a mind that fails to distinguish white from Grey is either sick or suffering from some malady and at best right thinking people can take pity and no more.

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by Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India  | 08 21 2011 08:03:24 +0000

Once the issue becomes redundant such discussions should be removed from board.

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by Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India  | 08 18 2011 09:08:38 +0000

A simple question to participant who suggested "Anna should Quit"

Dear friend, What should Anna quit....taking up your cause.............at the cost of millions who support and love him.

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Ignore Congres propoganda

idea posted by AMISH Admin/Facilities Manager, VKVC
Congress aims at smear campaigns like it has done to Anna's image. We simply ought to ignore that and focus on what they are trying to hide behind such smears.
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NOTHING NEW! WHY CORRUPT POLITICIANS & BUREAUCRATS WOULD SPARE HIM?

idea posted by PS Dhingra CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants

It always happens in politics and public life. We cannot expect the revengeful corrupt politicians to spare a person like Hazare, if he has taken the lead to expose them. They were definitely not expected to sit back as silent spectators, when they have huge unearned income to spend against any other person to lable him as corrupt to save their own skins. Media also seems to be in league with such fellows to defame Hazare.

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Kavitha Shankar's suggestion, as Sr./ Principal Correspondent of a prominent Paper, that "someone among us could take the lead perhaps things would become quite easy", is not understood whether she wants members to make things easy to help prove corruption charges against Anna Hazare or to support Anna Hazare's membership for drafting of the Anti-coruption Bill. So, first of all she may like to clarify what her suggestion is meant for?

Secondly, the question arises, when even press/media being at her hand, as a sr./principal correspondent, she is not able to make use of that, what she can expect from an ordinary person amongst us to do something? She is however welcome if she comes up with some clear & solid suggestion what the members of this forum can do and in what respect?

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Intension of the people may be good or bad but result never should be wrong

idea posted by Nem Singh Consultant, Consultancy Firm
It is India every one has right to blame on others whether it is wright or wrong our primary procedural law accepts both.
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Anna's character is beyond doubt.

idea posted by Srinivas suravajhala Asst. Manager.
The corrupt politicians dont want the Jan Lok Pal bill to happen. They are just throwing some mud on the character of Anna. A jaundice infected fellow looks the world yellow. So the corrupted fools assume that everybody is corrupted just like him. It is all in the political game. Cong. leaders might have investigated someone to file a pill. We should not fall pray to these gimmicks. We all should stand steady behind Anna.
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Father son philosophy take Annaji under corruption aligation

idea posted by Nem Singh Consultant, Consultancy Firm
Each and every one knows that Annaji never take type of action as our third class people blame but in India every thing is possible because you buy all things for money because all we lost our principles and ethicks for that we come to know in the world.
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Anna should quit

idea posted by Munshi Ramchand Retired
Anna's funda is not good - He is a puppet introduced by the RSS and Sangh Parivar. In a campaign like this(against corruption) the moment you start leaning towards left or right, your innocence is lost, people will start doubting your commitment. It is good for Anna Saheb Hazare to quit.
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by Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 08 20 2011 04:49:22 +0000

Munshi Ramchand I am in full agrement with your point of view on the subject.

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by Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 08 20 2011 03:12:10 +0000

In Gujarat you are killed if you fight for justice ...

Posted On Saturday, August 20, 2011 at 02:34:56 AM Ahmedabadmirror

Even as people back Anna Hazare demanding a corruption-free India, one man quietly but determinedly filed a public interest litigation seeking appointment of a lokayukta in Gujarat.  His anguish and agony is understandable. His young son was murdered sometime back opposite Gujarat High Court because he was using his right to seek information against the rich, powerful and politically connected mining mafia. Bhikhubhai Jethava, father of slain RTI activist Amit Jethava, says Gujarat is an unsafe place for all those who fight for their rights. “

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What made you file the PIL demanding a lokayukta?

 My son had filed a PIL in 2008. There already is a law in Gujarat but the state government is deliberately not appointing a lokayukta. When my son filed the PIL, the state government assured Gujarat High Court  of appointing lokayukta “immediately”.  It didn’t happen. Hence this PIL.

What would you achieve by filing this PIL?

I feel pained. Everybody is carried away by the hype that Gujarat is vibrant. My son was fighting for justice. He was fighting against corruption and politicians. There are two reasons for filing this PIL: to continue my son’s fight against corruption and politicians, and to support the movement started by Anna Hazare. I have spoken to Anna several times on the issue.

How will lokayukta benefit the state?

What is the other way left in Gujarat at the moment to seek justice? Those who raise their voice against falsehood, injustice or corruption are eliminated. From Haren Pandya to Amit Jethava. What is the action taken against corruption and injustice under the Narendra Modi government? The institution of lokayukta is the only recourse left for common people like us to get justice and to fight against powerful politicians and corruption. Once lokayukta is in place, believe me, several ministers will be behind bars. Today, corruption has crossed its limits in Gujarat.

People can know where their leaders stand once lokayukta is in place. Until now, all of us thought Karnataka government was good. So much development and international investment has come to Bangaluru. But look what (BS) Yeddyurappa had done there.  Worse things are happening in Gujarat but no action is being taken against those responsible. Lokayukta is Gujarat’s only hope to know the reality.


Have you received any threat?

I will be murdered. Isn’t that what happens in Gujarat when you fight for justice? What happened to Haren Pandya? It was a political murder. What happened to my son? Specially after this petition, my life is in danger.


How can you say there is corruption in Gujarat? The state is known for clean governance.

Corruption in Gujarat is different. Gujarat has traditionally been very progressive and rich. Right now corruption that exists in Gujarat is not only different from that in other states but dangerous. We are a border state. Still our government is sheltering and doling out land to industrialists who have been sent to jail for extortion or custom evasion.

My son was fighting to stop illegal limestone quarries. He had openly named BJP MP Dinu Bogha Solanki. He had proof. Still what happened? My son was murdered. Haren Pandya deposed before a people’s tribunal about Narendra Modi’s complicity in the genocide, that he was responsible for the death of hundreds of innocent people in 2002 riots. What happened? Modi became number one and Harenbhai was killed. This is Gujarat. It is sad that in Gandhi’s Gujarat we blindly support Anna but are ignoring corrupt and criminal politicians.

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idea posted by Ardhendu Pal Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
Anna Hazare has a family in his panel Former Law Minister Shanti Bhushan (Co-chairman) and his son Eminent lawyer Prashant Bhushan why? Former Law Minister Shanti Bhushan is already under scanner, wasn't Anna aware of this? RTI activist Arvind Kejriwal who always loses patience and calm while speaking to public, why Anna has such people in his panel? Now Anna Hazare himself lives in a temple, why didn't he lives in a small hut or flat to have a neighborhood? Why only his men to represent the Jan Lokpal panel where Kiran Bedi was actively supporting she was not offered to come to the panel? And many more doubts on the real intentions of respected Anna Hazare may be he wants to enjoy the taste of power and position at the last stage as a last wish...........
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by Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 08 19 2011 15:34:32 +0000

The whole gang of Anna is "shady".

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Anna is corrupted Indeed

idea posted by Ardhendu Pal Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
This has been proved by Justice Sawant Commission. Moreover his behavior is not like a good citizen but a thug, a dictator.
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by Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 08 19 2011 15:33:43 +0000

100% correct.

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Again issue for Lokpal Bill

idea posted by Vipin Bhasin Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.
Govt is trying to find out cases which are more than 2 years old, it means if Anna didn't go for fast then every thing is OK but now govt. is finding faults among all Lokpal Committee of Anna.. It is the main point of Anna's bill that no case will pending against any govt, or big post official. Fast action will take place & immediate penalty to corrupt people..
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by Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 08 20 2011 17:17:45 +0000

It doesn't matter whether the case is 2 years old or not - A wrong is a wrong, irrespective of who did it. what is so special about Anna?. You cannot have two different standards in the same country.

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IT IS EXPECTED

idea posted by Nitin M Aras Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ODTIN Food Solutions Pvt Ltd
Nothing surprising here... it is expected... like a kids story book ...that one day one devil will come out from the shell and destroy the whole things .... expecting a good end as happens in kids story book.... Something we tried to believe on some one.... not biased by the petition.... system is corrupt... not Anna Hazare.... At least he had blown the bubble of frustration laying in common man.... Dont know whether motive is important or action.... action taken by Anna is a important sign... this only I can understand
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In this Country Only true people give Exam

idea posted by Nitin Mehra Software Developer, ROBOMAN MICROSYSTEMS

From the Ancient Time in this country, The destiny of true people is they have to face exam again and again. From Sita to Swami Vivekanand Every Person who is true face difficulties in this country. And We people have just believe anybody. The Motive of Anna Hazare is Good. He has to face difficulties. if He didn't go for strike, These things could not happen against him. Then there will be No committee No corruption. All is Well...

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In this Country Only true people give Exam

idea posted by Nitin Mehra Software Developer, ROBOMAN MICROSYSTEMS

From the Ancient Time in this country, The destiny of true people is they have to face exam again and again. From Sita to Swami Vivekanand Every Person who is true face difficulties in this country. And We people have just believe anybody. The Motive of Anna Hazare is Good. He has to face difficulties. if He didn't go for strike, These things could not happen against him. Then there will be No committee No corruption. All is Well...

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Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee

idea posted by Rajesh K Richhariya G.M., Sales & Marketing
Politician community by enlarge doesn't want Lokpal bill. Even if one corrupt politician plays can cause false damages to anybody's image. Govt never wanted Mr.Bhushan & Anna into the committee. Govt wants to keep loop hole in the bill to continue their business. Let good Lokpal Bill come, you may ask accountability to Mr.Bhushan & Anna Hazare as well. Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee.
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Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee

idea posted by Rajesh K Richhariya G.M., Sales & Marketing
Politician community by enlarge doesn't want Lokpal bill. Even if one corrupt politician plays can cause false damages to anybody's image. Here they are collective Govt never wanted Mr.Bhushan & Anna into the committee. Govt wants to keep loop hole in the bill to continue their business. Let good Lokpal Bill come, you may ask accountability to Mr.Bhushan & Anna Hazare as well. Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee.
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Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee

idea posted by Rajesh K Richhariya G.M., Sales & Marketing
Politician community by enlarge doesn't want Lokpal bill. Even if one corrupt politician plays can cause false damages to anybody's image. Here they are collective Govt never wanted Mr.Bhushan & Anna into the committee. Govt wants to keep loop hole in the bill to continue their business. Let good Lokpal Bill come, you may ask accountability to Mr.Bhushan & Anna Hazare as well. Do not fall prey to Govt tactics and do not be the part of any activity that dilutes the committee.
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Demand Jan Lokpal Bill to be discussed in Jantar Mantar

idea posted by S. Muralidharan Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
Let him go back to the same place where he ended fast, ask the politicians to join the group to discuss draft in front of a mass who should be gathered around till the draft bill is ready to be passed in the parliament, and keep the pressure on all the politicians who are involved in "smear campaign"! Let Baba Ramdev join them with his supporters too, so also Sri Ravi Shankar's!
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Demand Jan Lokpal Bill to be discussed in Jantar Mantar

idea posted by S. Muralidharan Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
Let him go back to the same place where he ended fast, ask the politicians to join the group to discuss draft in front of a mass who should be gathered around till the draft bill is ready to be passed in the parliament, and keep the pressure on all the politicians who are involved in "smear campaign"! Let Baba Ramdev join them with his supporters too, so also Sri Ravi Shankar's!
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Demand Jan Lokpal Bill to be discussed in Jantar Mantar!

idea posted by S. Muralidharan Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
Let him go back to the same place where he ended fast, ask the politicians to join the group to discuss draft in front of a mass who should be gathered around till the draft bill is ready to be passed in the parliament, and keep the pressure on all the politicians who are involved in "smear campaign"! Let Baba Ramdev join them with his supporters too, so also Sri Ravi Shankar's!
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Need to Remain Focused...

idea posted by Nilesh Jain Project Manager, A Leading Media/Telecom Co.
No wonders...! Who said that a corrupt person is not eligible for forming a law? We have many politicians who are alleged/proven as corrupt, but still rudely ruling us without shame. Mr Amar clearly accepted Y'day though we do not have credibility, but we are elected by people. So where is the question of quitting Bhushan's. Let the focus remain on drafting bill, let it propose to parliament and get it passed. Then existing laws along with new JLB can fight against whosoever is corrupt. May it be Mr Hajara, Bhushan or politician. Lets not get distracted for now. Attempts to derail it are expected as well.
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Need to Remain Focused...

idea posted by Nilesh Jain Project Manager, A Leading Media/Telecom Co.
No wonders...! Who said that a corrupt person is not eligible for forming a law? We have many politicians who are alleged/proven as corrupt, but still rudely ruling us without shame. Mr Amar clearly accepted Y'day though we do not have credibility, but we are elected by people. So where is the question of quitting Bhushan's. Let the focus remain on drafting bill, let it propose to parliament and get it passed. Then existing laws along with new JLB can fight against whosoever is corrupt. May it be Mr Hajara, Bhushan or politician. Lets not get distracted for now. Attempts to derail it are expected as well.
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complete takeover.

idea posted by phanindra B.Tech/B.E. student, College Of Engineering , Andhra University, Vishakhapatnam
The whole lot of politicians are corrupt. not even a single guy is eligible to lead lokpal unit. we need all this politicians to go out and we need some fresh faces who are college grads(min) with social consciousness to rule our country.
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Indians are incapable of ruling at all

idea posted by neha singh Content Editor, Avestia Corp
Indians are not capable of ruling either the public or the employees. We should have military rule in most of the unstable states.
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A LEADER SHOULD COME OUT OF WE COMMON PEOPLE.....

idea posted by Sairam. M System Administrator

I TOO AGREE WITH YOUR IDEA, AS YOU SAID.

 

RISK IS FOLLOWED BY SUCCESS,

BUT WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE RISK? 

 

AAM AADMI CAN CAST HIS VOTE TO HIS FAVORITE POLITICIAN, BUT CANNOT TAKE POLITICIAN'S PLACE, SINCE IT HAS DIRE CONSEQUENCES. 



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The bane of corruption

idea posted by Mohammad Bakhsh Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Freelancer
The core issue is corruption and not Anna Hazare or Shanti Bhushan CD.Without involving these people,the lokpal bill will remain stagnant.The purpose of these disclosures is to divert the attention from the main issue.
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IGNORE THESE ALLEGATIONS CONCENTRATE ON LOKPAL BILL DRAFT

idea posted by nagesh rao Freelancer, Freelancer
Kavita these are all only allegations could not be substantiated in the court of the Law just it is a ploy to destabilize the core Drafting Committee by these politicians. We should not succumb to these tactics & focus on the issue & ensure that not such allegations will hamper our fight against corruption.
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idea posted by Omkar Kulkarni Accounts Officer, Minilec(India) Pvt Ltd
INC is trying to demoralize the campain.
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