| Topic : Commonwealth Games - Costing Many Lives!!! |
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last activity : 10 06 2010 15:50:14 +0000
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Take proper preventive measures
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Get over JUGAAD & Chlata Hai culture
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Revisit Health and Safety norms and do root cause analysis
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QUICKER EVACUATION
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prevention is better
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Fire safety rules were broken by Builder - Occupants unware
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Educate people on disaster management
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Controlling fire tragedies
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people must take lesson to folllow rules and autharities must be ready for appropriate disaster mangment and implmenting la
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Help Prevent Voilation of Building Codes while construting
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In the majority of times, these kind of cases occur because of carelessness of people in the building and not having proper preventions to tackle with these problems. Lack of preventive infrastructure and proper preventions causes this kinds of accidents so, these things should be taken care of. Also, in each floor, proper emergency exists (more than two) should be there so that in kind of any such incidents at least loss of lives doesn't occur. |
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Fire doesn't engulf the whole building at once, unless it was bombed.
Proper Fire Escape Mechanism should allow most people to leave the danger zone, intime.
Where ever such fire accidents happened during the few months, the main culprit has been no provision for fire-escape stairs.
Dear Yash,
A very good topic.
Some Two Months ago, a Hyderabad private Hospital, involving heavy fire accident, a Month ago a Bangalore Commercial Tower and now a Kolkata Residential-cum-Commercial Complex.
The common feature to all is that none of them have been in conformance with the fire-safety norms, as required for such buildings.
What is shocking is that hundreds of such buildings without any conformance to the basic fire-safety norms are in existence in every Town and City of India. And much more shocking aspect of it is the local fire departments are not aware of such erring buildings or, hand in glove in allowing such building to operate at the cost of the lives of unsuspecting citizenry.
We have Humar Rights, Child Rights, Women Rights, Environmental, etc. Groups, but not one showing interest in the fire-safety of the innocent citizens.
Corrupt builders being the most powerful of the lobbies, we can hope to witness many more such incidents in near future.
We haven’t learn anything from Uphaar Theater Fire Expisode, nor will we ever learn from these
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This fire or for that matter other similar accidents are a direct result of long drawn process and this is easy to identify as SHORT CUT BY PEOPLE in hurry. Take me to audit a facility and we may be able to give a long list in each yet the pertinent question is are there any takers? The answer is we are only interested in making money, the fastest and at whatever cost and therefore shortcuts are an easy available option. This applies to ALL segments classes and levels of authority and is more deadly to a nation than cancer to a human yet we refuse to wake up. Let me share with an example: Who is an expert electrician to most managers in India? One who dares climb up a wet electricity pole on a rainy day and connect the wires LIVE, without asking for insulated gloves, insulated step ladder, insulated pliers and need not have gone on to care about electricity hazards ....so on. Have you heard "Darey ga to kaam kaise karey ga." If this is the parameter to judge who is would like to take the responsible. |
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all people concerned should do it, even the people taking up residence or offices in these buildings should make sure that their people who are going to be working in these buildings are safe,by making sure the builder or land lord has provided all the necessary safety measures in the building before purchasing or renting it.
Friends the simple cure is:
1. Planned activity ought be strictly adhered and appreciated without any money, power or political interference being tolerated.
2. Make licencing, regulating and monitoring agencies accountable to have to bear the costs of mishaps due complicity and negligence.
Above two must be adhered strictly in all process resources man, machine and material included. Human or superhuman ---negligence ought be verified in depth and detail.
Dear Abrahm Paul,
Your point: Quicker evacuation.
This at best is curative and certainly not preventive you will agree.
And safeguarding accidents from taking place through all known reasons is bettering prevention.
In most cases one wonders Why the accident has not happened ?
if you do not agree walk a mile in any old town, look skywards and pay attention to spider nest formation called electrical wiring connectivity by entrusted.
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We need to do this constantly or this chalta hain lethargic attitude we have adopted has to stop, if it does not these things will keep on happening again and again and it will be on a larger scale as our callousness grows |
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In this case already the cover up operations has started. The files have gone missing already.
The local administration officials should be held responsible for all deaths due to negligence and failure in inspections and enforcing minimum statutory requirements.
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Like I mentioned earler during the 26/11 happenings, the media insted of showing the same gory footing againa again, should contribute more creatively. As soon I saw the news of the start of the fire at about 2.15 P.M, what came to mind was the need for immediate evacuation of all inhabitants from that building and the nearby ones. It was disappointing to see that none of the media guys were seriously making effort to mobilize the people in the begining stage itself for an effective evacuation procedure instead of running around with the camera. The media persons, being intelligent and better informed and having the best communication network, they should initiate some action to coordinate for the immediate needs and possible action plan with the local authorities. That will be best service that can be done by them instead of showing same gory sights hundred times over the media. There is no point in blaming the authorities for everything. However, there was not even a municipal siren sounded to alert the people inside the building. I remember of my young days, there use to be a municipal siren which we could hear from any where in the town if there is any fire incident or other calamities. We use run out of our home looking to find at which area the smoke is seen. At least the authorities everywhere can provide a networked siren alarm system in major cities. Like I mentioned about the Bangalore fire, every apartment should keep a rope ladder which would come handy to escape for many through the window of low raise buildings of 5 floor and less. |
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in big bulidings to accodents like fire we check the safety fire instruments once a month. if accidents happens so we can reduce the loss and we save life of people also. also put imergancy doors to exit. |
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So many rules / fire safety rules were brokren by the present owner-cum builder of Stephens Corurt - the building which caught fire in Kolkata. The occupants never questioned the builder about prevailing safety measures. Apart from flat owners, so many offices were there - Owners / Managers of such cos did not bother to know. It is now learnt that one roof of a floor was not made of concreates but was made of wood .... !! The buildibg was turned into a "fire-house" day by day. But what was the attraction of the building ? It was ideally situated in a commercial area of Kolkata, all facilities just nearby - so why should anybody bother ? Otherwise ... there remain plenty of good planned buildings in SaltLake and Rajarhat ... but that is a bit away from the old Kolkata city . It is the high time that we be aware. The culprits should be punished and at the same time we learn a lesson ... !! |
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All metropoliten & major cities in india to recruit the fire & safety engg. any new construction are old building, our old markets our way properly are other things is proper survey mark danger zone. every new cons. certified the building in safety engg. use fire hydrant,fire ext.,fire hose,proper planning the any case of emergency. this is the proper way to reduce fire emergency
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There can be many reason for the disaster. We can only prevent the disaster which are in our control. Some of the disaster as Earthquake, Cyclone, Floods or even Fire if it happens due to some small mistake, can not be preventable. The technical department or NGOs should educate people about thier action in case of the disaster so that the minimum casuality should take place. In case of fire most of the deaths happen due to smoke inhailing, if people know how to act then the deaths can be minimised. |
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why doi we need ngo´s everywhere, some simple tools and techniques can avoid such incidences, somebody in the organisation or office or the building has to take a stand and train them on the basics and that would avert a lot of these accidents
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The fire disasters have become a common thing in India, of late. The matropolitan cities are more vulnerable to fire disasters due to congestion. Most of the cities in India are unplanned, congested and fire hazards are seldom thought of. In case of fire, we have seen time and again, even it becomes difficult for the fire brigade staff and fire tenders to reach the spot quickly. To overcome these hazards, we need to first of all, educate the people regarding these hazards and also train the people in fire fighting initially when fire is noticed. Secondly, all the offices, shops and establishments should compulsorily keep portable fire extinguishers in working condition so that, the moment a fire is noticed, people can try to extinguish before it spreads further. I have not seen portable fire extinguishers even in sophisticated offices also. The Govt. should strongly make these things mandatory for all establishments. The Insurance companies also should not entertain any claim unless they produce the proof of having maintained sufficient fire extinguishers commensurate with the size of the establishment. While allotting space for new market place, office buildings, colonies etc., it should be ensured by the allotting authorities that a clear cut lay out plan is submitted which shows that sufficient space is mandatorily left out for access of fire tenders in case of fire hazards. This is not being done till now and, as a result, even the new townships and office buildings and markets are growing rapidly without any care for disaster management.
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people must take lesson to folllow rules and autharities must be ready for appropriate disaster mangment and implmenting la
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People must leave the habbit of breaking / disobeying rules and the autorities must learn to have a fullproof DISASTER MANAGMENT . Except this they must leave / sacrifice personnel intrest and implment the rules in appropriate manner . Only these things can help to stop such tragedies.
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A Large majority of fire tragedies are mainly becuase these buildings and the buildings in the neighbourhood have been constructed voilating building bye laws. In metros where coverage of 25-50% and FSI of 2.75 maximum depending upon the front Road width is allowed people have constructed buildings with a coverage of 100% and FSI of even up to 4.5. In addition proper fire escapes and fire fighting facility are not provided. Of course greedy and corrupt officials, builders and Politicians are responsible for such situations on one side and the population explosion is anther reason, which creates increasing demand for accomodations. |
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