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Started by : Leena Khade, Banc Assurance, Deutsche Bank   02 01 2010 08:07:44 +0000
Industry : BankingFunctional Area : India(Markets)
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Recently the Reserve Bank of India has announced that bank frauds are on the rise. Moreover, than private banks the Public sector banks are having more frauds than ever. Be it from the manager who sanctions loans recklessly with or without intention and then later they come to know that they have been duped with crores of rupees.

And this is an alarming scenario, after all, it is people's hard earned money. Globally, banks keep a tight vigil as any slip can bring them down and even impact the economy. In their bid to quickly expand and grow, they are losing focus on risk control, and its high time that banks strengthen their fraud management practices. So, people how can we stop such frauds from happening? please share your views.

 
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1 High scrutiny of Loan applications
2 3 Mantras for tackling Bank Fraud
3 Stricter Adherence to best Auditing and Accounting practices.
4 Its a level playing game having so many facets.....
5 surojit.lgeil@gmail.com
6 Increase the rate of Interest on loans and reduce tenure of the loan to be repaid.
7 wake up before the time comes walk before the time awakes
8 Banks should keep a tight check on stock statements produced by their parties on monthly basis vis-a-vis actual stock
9 Use of New Technology

High scrutiny of Loan applications

idea posted by Leena Khade Banc Assurance, Deutsche Bank

Most of the fraud happens interms of Loans that are being sanctioned, from personal loans to home loans where from valuators banks will be misled time and again, and even bank managers at times will be involved and valuators from banks who visit the site location will be easily bribed and will send wrong reports and then by the time banks comes to know about these things already crores of rupees will be duped. So high scrutiny is first required, just because banks want to expand and grow they can't give loans to everybody, but sadly that is the case and hence we are seeing an increase bank frauds.

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It cannot be stopped however, the Government should print its own money not the RBI, because is a private, quasi-money-laundering Bank for the big Corporates. Try finding the fiscal-deficit, you will be shocked and also find out the Government debt. how much it is? and how long it will take the Government to pay-off the debt to RBI.We are in doldums, a world-wide depression is eminent. My best advice would be to convert the value-less paper-money into standard Gold or Silver, during the time of depression, a single silver coin will fetch you a weeks grocery...to remind you guys, The Great Depression of 1929.

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Broadly Bank Fraud can be divided into 3 categories. Internal, Corruption and External. Corruption can not be stopped, at least not in the near future. Internal depends on bank's procedures and sytems. External can be arrested with a little common sense. Problem is not with the valuers, it is with duplicate documents and showing the wrong site to the bankers. APSFC is taking the precaution of obtaining a certificate from the Village Officer with a site map that the land mentioned in the map belongs to the owner. Most banks are not doing this. To detect duplicates Banks are made the lawyers responsible to verify with the Sub Registrar, this is a good process. A firm and reputed introduction, proper KYC and Bank Manager's personal check instead of relying on the documents will stop the frauds to a major extent   

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what i suppose that the there should be turnover of employees every year from one dept to another , normally the base employee working in FI and credit and accountability of the respective employees should be affixed.

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3 Mantras for tackling Bank Fraud

idea posted by Ravi IT PMO, Cricket Communications

This is a bigger problem and we should see larger picture. This will continue untill following things are done.

  1. Issuance of UID to every Indian Citizen. This will help banks to know who exactly is involved in the fraud. So action that can be taken.
  2. Indian Penal Code has to be amended to severely punish people who commit Financial Frauds. Using existing laws one (fraudster) can easily escape with little or no punishment
  3. Banks must have a common database, where details can be verified (real-time). All banks can form an association and have few hundered people in that association to help provide real time information about account holders.
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Great suggesion. I would like to add stricter implementation of KYC norms to customers and do's & dont's for all bank/regulator's staff responsible for appraisal, monitoring, supervision and risk management of every credit decision for every financial institution.

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Stricter Adherence to best Auditing and Accounting practices.

idea posted by Arunangshu Choudhury Agent, L.I.C

I think only this will help Nip the problem in the bud as there will be early detection of problem areas,corrupt officials also will not take the risk of getting detected and a jail term.

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by Nirakar Patel, Probationary officer, Bank of Baroda  | 02 01 2010 20:59:09 +0000

if we are doing the documentation properly,then there is minimal chance of frauds as our law is so stricter that one cant escape except in exceptional cases.

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Its a level playing game having so many facets.....

idea posted by Santosh Dwivedi Media N' Marketing

If you go through the present scenario, it may be found that

We have developed more regulatory authorities, rules & regulations than the expert followers of them. It has all created a confusing scenario and a lot of target compliance pressures on working personnels associated with money lending.

On the other side, a number of facilitators group also working in the interest of brokerage and commissions. Thus, the whole gamut suggests the huge deployment of funds but in distributed manner and not in centralised manner.

You just see the lonee is only one but the beneficiaries are many... is it a balanced formula where we can expect for a successful execution ... ???

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surojit.lgeil@gmail.com

idea posted by Surojit Saha Marketing Executive , Mount Shivalik Breweries Ltd.,

I think only this will help Nip the problem in the bud as there will be early detection of problem areas,corrupt officials also will not take the risk of getting detected and a jail term.

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Increase the rate of Interest on loans and reduce tenure of the loan to be repaid.

idea posted by Saleel Deshpande Sr.Architectural Co-ordinator, Dar Al-Handasah(Shair and Partners)

I think the old days were better where one would not dare to take a loan just for any sake, as he had to think many times for the rate of interest he has to pay for the loan amount,thus risk was less, now in present time we see the rate of Interests dropped too low that one can dare to take loan to any amount (ofcourse of what he is eligible),irrespective of the interest amount which he/she knows is little and will have to be paid for more no. of years,and additional to this bank managers valuators as rightly stated by Leena are going corrupt and are being bribed very easily, a common man know only to pay to them as he like others wants to get his work done.

I also think that the tenure within which one is supposed to repay the loan should be less,with higher EMI ,in this manner banks will get selected customers and can grow in right direction.

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wake up before the time comes walk before the time awakes

idea posted by sandeep manager, Reliance Communication

while the cst appling for a loan are account opening go and conform that is he having a right status to have a family relations ship with us after that if he alligible for all those things. after that each and every cst must and should inform for the same while he is changing the add's  if not he goning to black list of our sack 

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1.photo&I.D proof of the cst

2.moblie num of such person ho is giveing him refarence min 3.

3.E_mail id's of both

(to trace in orkut and 123 dail) 

4.if possible each and every cst phone num get by the bank while the cst is geniune as up to mark and should maintain in data is personal brouse as update of cst details.

5.if possible each and every cst be called by banker through some prosess  like tele calling prosess as a cst minder. 

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Banks should keep a tight check on stock statements produced by their parties on monthly basis vis-a-vis actual stock

idea posted by vikrant inamdar Sales/BD Manager, Bajaj Allianz

Discrepancy in actual stock n as seen in statement leads to huge organisational loss which comes to light only when the party is unable to pay even the interest due.Bankers as seen in many a cases are interested only in the interest they get n not in actual n proper functioning of a company.

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Use of New Technology

idea posted by Dinesh Anand CEO/MD/Director, Achievers Corporate Solutions (India)
Layered Voice Analysis - LVA is a security level SOFTWARE TOOL, used by CIA, Pentagon, Insurance Companies and Corporates Globally, can be effectively used for both the employee honesty and integrity and also for Borrowerfor his intentsions ... wwww.lva.co.in
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