China might attack India in future !!!

The article describes why China is trying to attack India. To my opinion India is least prepared. It should not only monitor  pak movements but also keep check on the developments in China in terms of business & politics.

It is universally known India is an Idiot compared to China, not because Indians are not smart, but for the other universally known truth, India has IDIOT governance, and that is the main reason why it is not able to hold onto its scarce Intellectual resources who find it better and more convenient to be slaves of US corporations, just be get a basic human quality of life.

I mean, it doesn't need even common sense to know what would happen to an IIT-ian working as engineer for Raja and Tabela sons, compared to selling sugar water or soap for a top brand. It is our stupid economic policies, chor taxation rules and various other Government generated counermeasures that will ensure Indian companies will always remain high end dung heads of Rajah and Tabela, which at the most will supply tissue papers, or peons to large overseas corporations and pride themselves of having hi-fi clients on their web sites.

Yesterday, the exchange rate was 30, our duties were 40, today the exchange is 50 and duties are 20. So even today, if say I want to implement a high end ERP, the license costs are still prohibitive, and in the absense of good infrastructure, roads, real good secure EFT or internet based banking that ADEQUATE customers aer going to use, we are never going to be competitive against any large sized country. It is just coincidence that in this case, the neighbor is China.

The rest - we are only making excuses of not looking at internal issues in the EYE and addressing them.

Regarding MADE IN INDIA labels, Indian companies themselves have closed units in Maharashtra e.g. switches, luggage makers, small other items, general merchandising stuff etc.  Remember, China even manufactures  Levis / Lee jeans in high scales at 25-40 Rs. per unit, puts in labels, these are sold in HK for around 400-600 Rs., in EU at 1500, in US for much higher.  During Clinton regime, Levis found their sales leaking out, and used some Human rights issues to stop their production units from operating in China.

Many US shoes that we import or sell in India costing 4000-5000 Rs are actually made in Indonesia ! and labelled Made in USA ! That is very common in International Marketing. In fact, the one who has the biggest grouse would be Mr. Rahul Bajaj - Just check out the GULSAR bike, a hot seller in China and   you will know why ...

There is an old saying in China - as long as it catches rats, it doesn't matter if the cat is white or black.

I would recommend a good book for CHINA watchers to read, of course it has its own colored opinions in some areas - New Asian Emperors by George and Usha CV Haley, Chin Tiong Tan ISBN - 0-7506-4130-4.

Alex

Pakistan used to attack India because of following resons,

1.To show that he is not weak and have atomic bombs so that neighboring countries should not attack.

2.To divert the attention of world from his internal disturbances .

3. To check their trained terrorists capability after training.

4.To get maximum foreign aids for removing the problem of sl.no.2&3.because internal disturbances are borne by themselve.

5. To test their arms and amunations.

as we have read in news paper that some state is under communal disturbance in China.hence china has very fare chance because he has filled our market by his products such as batteries,toys,many toys ,number of electronics items,etc.which will be used as remote bombs.

I don't think this is possible.  One country attacking another is not so easy nowadays.  A large country trying it against a small country may be possible but Indo-China war at this point of time is impossible.

Typically, India and China are trying to accupy a similar leadership role in the world.  the difference is that India is a democracy.  Neither India would instigate a war nor would China try to be seen starting one.  Pin-pricks will be there but full fledged war is a vehement no.  

Both China and Pakistan have to now contend with challenges to their respective systems of governance.  That happens to be their larger challenge.  This will increase but not come down in the immediate future.  Their hands are going to be full. 

Indian foreign policy has a shock-absorber effect.  Indian should continue to insulate itself from attack possibilities.  Indian strong point is its economic strength and its neighbours lack it.  India can help economic development of its neighbours.  Neighbours dependency on Indian economy for them to grow would serve as insulator for possible attacs by China.  

we have been since 47 busy competing with pakis.

paki a new born baby outclassed us by being friends with us & china ( arabs support them like anything)

we are not clear basically whether we are non violent or defenders.we are still encircling NAM

we have to learn from the jews .Despite so much opposition they are still fighting on.

nothing is lost even now . GOI has to prepare itself fOR  war with US , if they want to cripple chinese.

otherwise , we have to contend COMPARING OURSELVES with pakis who are scr*7%? us inside out everywhere . See kashmir:::

if kASHMIR BREAKS OF ( I AM NOT SOUNDING A PESSIMIST ) , INDIA WILL REVERT TO PREHISTORIC CONDITION.

AGAIN WE WILL HAVE 365 NATIONS AND 365 KINGS.

TIME TO RISE BROTHERS.

Sorry, but I find this idea a little too farfetched. I do not believe that this is going to happen. India incidentally is a very LARGE buyer of chinese goods in the hrey market which means a lot of financial sense to China. They are quite ahead of us in terms of their economy, exports, IT etc (TOI dated 14th July'09), they would not have anything to gain NOW than when they had attacked us nearly four decades ago!!

I think the fight to be a super power is what is on between us and China. Beyond that I dont think this would happen at all!!

History’s most grandiose accomplishments sometimes can have the most trivial origins. Five miserable shillings had set Great Britain on the road to the great colonial adventure. Similarly China’s toys makes the world play.

India’s complacency and inability to take action at the right time,  time and again made India an easy and soft target. I quote- “A race destined to govern and subdue.”- Rudyard Kipling1933.London.

Even after more than 6 decades, India’s tryst with destiny is yet to pledge that the Nation is no more suppressed and vulnerable.

I saw a number of opinions for this blog, strategies and tightening of security etc... but India has been targeted end number of times by a Nation which is not economically sound, does not have resources and is dependant wholly on other countries, and India has failed to retaliate, failed to take up measures to reduce the number of insurgencies. On the contrary a Nation as equipped and strategically established like China, attacks India, what will India do?

China has already started its base by the current ethnic riots in Urumqi in Xinijang region. They have channeled warnings to various countries which have a potential Chinese citizens working.

India cannot spend all energies in Defence for all scenarios. It is impossible with the kind of priorities on Infra and Social Development spends. India should strengthen its relationship with China in trade and investment. When it comes to nations, competitors cannot afford to become enemies. India and China together can be an extraordinary balancing factor to the concentration of power that has been historically in the west. Indian and Chinese enterprises should form powerful alliances for executing international projects including and not limited to MENA region. They should optimize on values they share as very old civilizations that are not just surviving but thriving. India has its own border issues with China which should be pursued for a dialogue based solution. India has no choice but to tread carefully on Tibet issues. India cannot afford to express herself freely about Taiwan or current struggle for the minorities in certain regions in China. If one looks at how India is handling Burma, there is no doubt that India has gone far away from the days of Non Aligned movement and is now hugely focused on her own interests. Indian IT majors are active in China. And a few more industries too. India should have a lot more to offer and a lot more to ask for, in areas such as infrastructure development and urban planning, to mention a few. There can be collaborations in the tourism sector. Indians are touring the world in very significant number (much like Japanese) - Indian tourists and cultural icons including and not limited to the Bollywoodites, can make a difference. A strong Indo Chinese bonding is also a mitigant against the  enmity with Pakistan. One enemy around is more than enough for India to handle for ages. We do not need another.

I dont think this situation will arise, as anyone who has seen the Taiwan - China relationship would know there is immense trade and wealth sharing, though whenever there are elections, there is some sabre rattling, and US   propaganda of impending nuclear attacks (for their own obvious interests !).

China does not have an aggressors track record last 20 years, even the HK / Macao handover and handling of promises, providing SAR - Special Adminstrative Region and  political - social - economic automies to these are strong examples.

China does not need Kashmir, and bearing costs to cross the mountains to get UP and Bihar is really stretching  imaginations. They do have a need to develop access to waters of Bay of Bengal to save costs on shipping routes, but a whole scale war they will not risk. Overall, they are a peaceful trading nation.

India needs to move at least 5% of their stated reforms which the UPA sarkar promised in 2004, rather than diverting attention from stupid lapses where 10 teenagers  walkedin and played out a Grand Theft Auto on Mumbai making a laughing stock of our Porous openings. Whether in 1992 blasts, or today, all it takes is a few fishing boats, and our own people to keep the city in international news.

India is open more to economic ruin if Chinese goods flood our markets, as they are likely to dump inventory as US markets are under recession. Mobile sellers are rightly bringing this up with the Government following imposition on new VATs on handsets following this new budget. Also remember, the Chinese handsets do not have record of a Mobile unique handset number, a critical element to trace callers or track stolen handsets.

Opening valid trade routes for certain items with favorable terms can open up jobs for small time retailers in rural markets, supply chains etc. and self employment opportunities for low priced items, which with nominal duties can benefit many people.

Future attacks would not be for land and area, they will be interface in economy and to get profit from Indian market. Our small business getting suffered now and they people switch to china dealership inspite of own production as it cheap.

The current financial crisis (ie when it ends) will create a new outlook and a new world order. 

As such, the emerging economies will have one upmanship. From this view, China & India will emerge from 2011 as giants economically/politically/militarily (provided we do not screw it up). The developed world has already started taking notice at this point.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/we-must-not-squander-indian-links/2009/07/13/1247337074164.html 

As a resident staying in land of Oz, the recent issue that created furore has made the authorities here realise that the it is not possible to ignore the giant from Indian Ocean. 

China on the other hand has nothing common with India per se. They have Oppressive Communist Regime v/s Democracy in India. Secondly they are too arrogant (giving an impression if we are not there you are nowhere and they try to impress this point every now and then which is clear from their actions since past two years if observed closely).

The rising power of India is surely a threat to them, this is what I observed as a student here in Oz from their talks, views and actions. Indians and Chinese study side by side in Uni's here but the competition is without resonable doubt INTENSE..and creates friction many times.

If China is pushed it may attack in desparation. A viewpoint I strongly agree. Thus India needs to act with immidiately in order to protect Soverignity and Integrity of itself

Having read all the posts above, I can see that we have to first conclude wether China be trusted or not?

It seems Intentions of china may not be clear about its border issues with India or any other country for that matter.

Chinese have an age old history of aggression towards their neighbors and till recent times India was not accessible because of the Himalayas so easily, so we were at peace with China.

Once this accessibility was established, this peace was shattered in 1962.

I am taking into consideration many of China’s Neighbors, Korea, Japan, Tibet, India and Vietnam

China has some ongoing border dispute with all of them, and they have been known to dishonor the agreements made with these countries repeatedly.

The Simla agreement of 1914 was trampled over in 1961-62

Let us examine some of the Latest Happenings:

China has made various agreements with Vietnam the latest ones being in 1999 and Dec 2008. But they forcefully took over three Islands belonging to Vietnam according to the Dec 2008 Sino-Vietnam border agreement between March and May 2009,not even six months after the agreement were signed!

Regarding the Chinese Policy On india: 

In April 2009, China Vetoed against plans for an Asian Development Bank loan to India for development of the Arunachal Pradesh region staking Claims over the territory.

Is any further evidence required to foresee China’s Intentions??? If so please enlighten me.

China wont hit us directly as has been told here. They are very wise.  If you see the statement of Sikkim CM after this election, he said he suffered a lot in India and also added they were suppressed.  Will this not enough for them to poke in their nose.  Already China supported SL by suply of arms and ammunitions to eliminate Tamils in the name of LTTE.  Bangladesh courtesyless country, now sharpened their knife to test the same whether it is sharp or not, where it has sharpened its knife. Nepal is already under China's control, any time we can expect trouble.  Many of the terrorists for Pakistan are getting training there. You all know Pakistan is thickest friend of China and is on the roads in giving trouble to India through all routes.  Already China started waging wars against India diplomatically, another one claim of Arunachal Pradesh, slowly they will capture eastern part by way of terrorism, then what else.  Whatever may be their internal problem, they control it with iron arm. No country even our big brother wont raise any questions on them. If it is happened a very big hue and cry will be heard fromall over the world.  None of the muslim countries opened their mouth in the recent incidents happened in China.  China wants to be a big brother in Asian region thats why all the troubles are happening.  It is also attacking India on economic front as you might have read from the news papers that one container of goods come to chennai harbour made in China were marked as "MADE IN INDIA", how shameful it is.  Already so many such products were supplied world wide in the name of made in India. It is a pity India still kept mum on all these issues till today. In what way you all think that India can?  You must have a strong leader like Vallabhai Patel is the need of the hour.  All others are mere waste. Bhutan is keeping quiet because, they are safe with India otherwise China will also poke in there.Tibetan wont support China, when chance comes, they will definitely raise their guns against China. Otherwise all are against India only. Every one can enter India easily as our officials on the border, at customs are all prostitutes. They need only money and not country.

Considering the above now write your views.

"CHINA is no LION unless we are SHEEPS"

Please read my article "A bitter pill for India reprieve" posted in 5 parts in this community where in I have suggested how India can eliminate poverty and become immune to terrorism, and agression from neighbuoring countries.

Yes it might be true in coming future.....I think it is started in terms of importing goods from china...From china we import milk powder, toys  & cloths .... these things r harmfull in terms of health.Like if we take milk from china it is possion .so that now a days in milk powder chemical presents r coming from china at very low price.So it harms

us.............

Look only to be remain apprehensive will not solve our problems.We have to act and act fast in self defence.The latest news is China is making military bases in POK. Earlier they were involved in only socially beneficial infrastructural activities. We can not rely on China. Chinese thinking is very difficult to make out. In 1962 also only after US intervention did China retreated. A recent survery in China also says that Chinese people considers India to be their No. 1 enemy. Given all this facts we have to act in self defence and to like Israel. Israel example is best. But our mentality is different from Jews. So we have to be prepared for war or increase in Naxalite activities which are also brainchild of China. They can go to the extent of supporting and abetting terrorism in India with the help of Pakistan. That is why I had said be prepared for everything and anything untoward.

Advanced Technological tie-ups with Europian Countries like Germany, France in the field of Defence is first & formost step Govt should consider strategically & seriously. off course, no country  can survive without energy so Energy security should form a priority of agenda. We must enhance our vigiliance air, naval bases with modern war fighting weapons, fighter planes which can be possible through these tie-ups.

There is no reason to attack your country.

I dont think so, but they might start creating proxy war like Pakistan the reason is simple because of China's riot-torn city of Urumqi and Xinjiang...
To prove a point to Muslim countries that they are not against muslim people and also to maintain friendship and its support with Pakistan they might create disturbance in exchange that no muslim fundamentalist or terrorist make jihad out of it... and also maintain pressure on India...

let us not antagonise defense establishments by our banter.

ON EVERY COUNT TODAY CHINA IS FAR SUPERIOR ON ALLCOUNTS.

WE HAVE TO CHECKMATE THE SUPREMACY WITH MORE TILT TOWARDS U.S. POLICY.

HISTORY HAS SHOWN THEY HAVE BACK STYABBED INDO-CHINA WAR THEY ARE YET TO RETURN THE LAND AND NOT FOLLOWING THE MACMOHAN LINE.WE NEED TO DEFEND BY STRENGTHENING OUR DEFENCE FORCES AIR,SEA AND LAND FORCES.THE CURRENT BUDGET HAS ALREADY UPPED THE BUDGET FOR DEFENCE WHICH IS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

China is the real monster!! Our pundits conveniently hide this reality and show our teeth to Pakistan. I dont agree with Dayanand that India had a cosy relation with China in  the past. I am sure that with the present strength wqe cannot match China in any of the military sphere. We need to concentrate more on our eastern borders. The reality is that China is occupying thousands of square kilometers of Indian land in our eastern border. They consider Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim as part of China. And our Foreign policy experts conveniently close their eyes towards these realities. Insteas we have our favorite foe the pakis to yell at. India need to strengthen its military prowess to many folds before we can begin talks with China. One thing for sure... No sane country wil attack others in this era of nuclear weapons. The petty wars which we see now is the handy work of fundamentalist nations and separatists. We are a countable economy with a considerably high stature. We ned to build upon this and get strong in other spheres. 

After hundreds of years of poverty and foreign interference, China is finally undergoing its industrial revolution and developing some wealth.  The citizenry is not inclined to upset the apple cart with foreign adventures, and India poses no threat.  If anything, India presents a selling opportunity as India's own citizens realize their own personal growth. Even if China did decide to attack, they don't do anything without long planning.  It would be easy to see it coming.

China and India, two Eastern giants with thousand-year of civilization, are playing increasingly important roles in international affairs. However, in recent years, the upgrading trade conflicts and tensions generated by border disputes have make this piece of Asian land a hotspot in world.

http://trak.in/news/india-eager-to-have-better-trade-ties-with-china-says-tharoor/22130/comment-page-1/#comment-9415

In order to reinforce the civil communication and information sharing between Chinese and Indian netizens, Sino-Indo Special Column of Huanqiu.com initiates "Sino-Indo Internet Users Debate Contest".

http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/showthread.php?t=8671

Chances for the China attacking India is remote, but they might keep pushing us for many reasons. foremost reason China is facing economical cruch because of India stopping there goods in Indian markets. secondly India and US jointly made Pakistan to crub on defence expediture, wherein Pakistan used to purchase B grade armaments from China. Looking at the current situation India has to be more obesevant on the issue and have to be agile on borders.

All the border forces should be consious because China knowns that India is not a week country as far as war is concerned. China cannot fight face to face so china is planning to grab the borders in inches because he knows that it is more convenient as Indian forces are not taking it very seriously, so chinese are crossing the border in a very rapid way. China is trying to trap the India by all the sides with the help of Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nepal.

In the past we have seen that chinese are very versed in cheating as Pakistan is. India should be very consious as this matter is very serious.