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Started by : Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates   04 09 2010 12:06:43 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Strategy Execution(Strategy & Execution)
Activity:  203 views;  last activity : 07 06 2010 20:18:09 +0000

Dear friends......

According to Health care Status report brought out by the Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India (ASSOCHAM), about 24 percent of corporate employees sleep less than 6 hours in a day due to high stressed levels that arise out of tough targets set for themselves by employers and cause diseases like hypertension, sugar and many more.

This is going worst day by day. Is this the fault of the company or the employees. Whom to blame.

How to overcome this problem?

It would be great if you share you ideas.......

 
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1 Companies should stop paying for overtime
2 Employee Productivity should measure w.r.t. target as well w.r.t 8 hours office time
3 Overtime...or high Aspirations...!!!!!!!
4 Change the company culture
5 Sensor with Employees
6 Workout and Meditation
7 According To me a persons Whos Live the office at 5.30 is a smart worker One who lives the office late notcompleted his works
8 HOW U LOVE EACH OTHER
9 Necessary evil
10 Both employees and the Co is doing wrong
11 corporate employees have much time to sleep but they are not.......
12 Field employee face real problem
13 Corporate employees sleep less than 6 hours in a day: ASSOCHAM
14 regular work time and overtime work, it should be enough gap b/w them.
15 where is my 8hrs runninggggg
16 This implies for both Public/private

Companies should stop paying for overtime

idea posted by Gargi Sinha Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates

The main reason why people work for more hours is for money. The companies pay more incentives it they work overtime. So the employees should work only for 8 hrs a day and the company should also not allow any employee to work more than 8 hrs.This will bring a solution to this problem.

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by Amit N Bhagwat, Recruitment Manager  | 04 09 2010 15:31:44 +0000

Yes employees of big corporate house work 15-20hrs because of deadline, tension, pressure & in return they certainly expect good money in terms of salary. incentives, stocks paid vacation for family, quarterly parties etc etc etc however this is in every industry & all companies even in a mid size companies.

I have also come across some people who do not work for money but they do it because they love their work so much that they forget they have a family.

 

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Employee Productivity should measure w.r.t. target as well w.r.t 8 hours office time

idea posted by Satish Kumar Project Coordinator - Green Building

One target need to be met, but at the same time while measuring the employ and department productivity, 8 hours office time must need to evaluated.

The best employee is the one who think smartly, plan smartly and then executive smartly with the given office timing. 

One activity is not important, productivity is important and if we shall measure the productivity w.r.t. 8 hours office time, then its the actual smartness.

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by Manisha S, Software Developer, Confidential  | 04 11 2010 15:29:32 +0000

Yes it is happening either because of lack of time management skills or he/she is overburden with work which leads to decrease in productvity which further leads to hypertension or stress.

I think it depends on capabalities of each and every employee and if we know our capablities we can manage things in much more better way.

 

 

 

 

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Yes and it is lack of time-management on the part of over-working employee rather than the work-exigency that make anyone sleep less.  Besides, it may that the failed stress-management of the employee is giving insomnia to him/her, which requires to be treated.

Length of stay in office is absolutely no bench-mark for the actual productivity. And yes, I agree with Gargi that managements should stop paying for worthless overtimes.

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Overtime...or high Aspirations...!!!!!!!

idea posted by Mohanish Lohar Propreitor, b2b Project Services - Designs & Project Management Consultants
Gargi I don't agree to your idea of Corporate employees sleep less than 6 hours because Companies pay overtime... No.... After certain level in employment, it is more of Higher Aspirations ( careers & Financial) that drives one to try run an extra mile. So I feel its more of trying to run "an extra mile" or maybe inefficiency.... in certain industries ya maybe overtime maybe the factor... but in manufacturing and service industry its more of the other two....
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by Ranjeet Kumar, Policy & Strategy, ******  | 04 10 2010 09:44:41 +0000

In this professional world there is no limitation of one's greed.Here,Greed(Aspiration) is associated with high position, social status,money,cynosure etc.Since all things are not possible spontaneously.That's why human nature gives birth to " Stressful Sleep".

Remedy-"Curtail expectation,increase simplicity and then watch...everything will be normal "

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by Angel , Freelancer, Freelancer  | 04 10 2010 06:40:21 +0000

yes i second it

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Change the company culture

idea posted by Vikas Bhatnagar Manager Finance, Tata Motors Ltd

Gargi

I donot agree with your viewpoint of overtime payment as it is not applicable to management employees.I feel the culture of the company is responsible for such a thing.If the department head sits in office late night,then it is expected that everyone has to sit late.So if this attitude changes,things would improve a lot.

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The solution might lie in changing the organizational culture. A culture in which putting in long hours is seen as being more productive is likely to produce stressed employees. The reason could be that time is measurable; effort is not. Appropriate hours with adequate work should be the norm and this should be encouraged through building up the culture that way. Incentives also need to tied up similarly without emphasizing the time put in. 

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Sensor with Employees

idea posted by Manish Grover Account Manager , Impressico Business Solutions Pvt Ltd

Sensor about health and capability first lies with employees; if they can handle extra workload only then they should accept  certain job roles; else this is  betrayal with self and with company.....

 

 

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Basicaly I agree that employees have to be self regulated. In addition to a general "igienic legal norm" (giving guidance for average max working daily/weekly hours, and a max per period, like a month, of extra working hours)

An external norm alone, in itself isn't generally able to solve once and for ever the issues (don't pay extra hours: you will do any case extra hours...not payed just to save your employment; result oriented evaluation ? fine, of course, but when the project schedule is unrealistically tight, you risk never to go to sleep...)

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Workout and Meditation

idea posted by Triguna Mutuguppe Sripathi Senior Software Engineer, Tarams Software Technologies

I guess the best medicine for stress or any tensions is meditation. If you do a little bit of Yoga or Gym it would sufficient to work more than 12 hours a day. :)

But off course working more than 8 hours is not preferable. Every person should make a strict schedule on his calendar and mind that he has to work only 8 hours and work 8 hours only office work not chatting or mailing or browsing or personal work. Then every work can be finished on time and no extra effort or hours required.

I guess most of us including me, start the work after lunch and that will off course go till 10. So if we start the work in the morning at 8 or 9, you can off course finish it by 5 or 6. Just give it a try. Let me know if did not work for you. :) 

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According To me a persons Whos Live the office at 5.30 is a smart worker One who lives the office late notcompleted his works

idea posted by Hemachandiran HR Executive

First of all Employee Must Take Care Of His Health.When the Organisation Pays Him More He takes the Responsibility to complete his works on time .

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HOW U LOVE EACH OTHER

idea posted by malek mohmedsahil data consultant, trans-lucent

HAHAHAH ANS ??????????????

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Necessary evil

idea posted by V G Sundar Kumar Consultant, Sri Balaji Maintenance Services & Freelance Recruiter.

There seems to be bit of ambiguity. Corporate employees by and large are grouped under Indirect employees and not eligible for overtime.  Most of the corporate employees who would be victims of health problems are in the upper strata and susceptible to diseases as mentioned  by Mr. Garg. 

It is inevitable that these sect of employees are prone to destroy their health.  One reason which strongly can be attributed to the company's policy, to keep amending their annual plans  from time to time without adhering to the long range forecasting plans.  This is the main hurdle.  Added to this problem are other problems encountered in  areas like manpower attrition, more work in progress, procrastination, decrease in turns of inventory, adhering to traditional or conservative norms which does not significantly speak of Change Management or implementation of Lean with 6 sigma. 

Comparing with corporate employees responsible for similar work load abroad, we are at an disadvantage because although we are globalizing our industries and stepping into World class management catagory.  But we still hold traditional views which are transferred from our predecessors about management style, administration and implementation of policies which are not in line or gets amalgamated with the various activities down under, causing hurdles of serious nature.  Hence overtime becomes necessary. These employees abroad are more organised, with systems in place, procedures well defined, tracking results with optimum accuracy and very effective communication across the entire organisation.  So the fortunate employee is not only fortunate to streamline and work in harmony with other team members, but also has the benefit of going on a vacation which is mandatory and enforced.  This keeps his health in good shape and he enjoys working for the organisation.

 

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Both employees and the Co is doing wrong

idea posted by ASOKE KUSARI Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India

If it is so ... both employee and the Co is doing wrong. The Co lures the staff for extra payments, promotion, bonus etc. The staff goes ahead to fulfill their amibitions and thus a nexus of "bad norms" are created.

As all of us know that there is a 'minimum' requirement of sleep for any human being. Jobs performed breaking this requirement may not be flawless. Industry body like NASCOM, FICCI, Asochem may come forward to make some uniform rule binding upon all.

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corporate employees have much time to sleep but they are not.......

idea posted by Angel Freelancer, Freelancer
I say...Corporate employees are much exposed to today's competition, technology, advantages, entertainment available, and his own Growth path, new way of relaxation..and so on... they are indulging themselves with any of these mode and reducing there sleep time....
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Field employee face real problem

idea posted by Brij Kishor Mishra Product Specialist at Alcon Laboratories India Pvt Ltd.

People those handle field assignments they usually travel a lot  & most of the time they travel to destination in nights & finishes assignments during te day time again night goes in travel.

This is real cause & concern where you don't have even time to relax, But companies don't understand,

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Corporate employees sleep less than 6 hours in a day: ASSOCHAM

idea posted by ravindra shrivastava Information Systems(MIS)-Manager, iifs pvt ltd
Very true. Most of the IT outsourcing companies. Wipro,tcs,satyam, Infosys. These companies are charging lumsum from the client for their services and rarely there is a call coming. Also Its popular in US consulate where husband and wife goes to US visa the consular officer asking him what are you doing in office as they work in the same place get marry there. In US rarely they marry a co-worker. I also heard they mostly touch the key board not going to lock mode on the terminal. So once person does hitting all the keyboard ever 10 min so that it cannot get locked and rest goes to sleep. Most of the IT Engineer come came from India on a short trip cannot work here as US work style is mostly taking responsibility unlike in India "I just work here attitude" Indian IT Engineers are Smart but they are Lazy. Mike replied to: The Truth
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regular work time and overtime work, it should be enough gap b/w them.

idea posted by TEJENDRA PRATAP MBA/PGDM student, IIITM

regular work time and overtime work, it should be  enough gap b/w them.

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where is my 8hrs runninggggg

idea posted by Arun SN CBM Engineer, BIRLA SOFT

unlike past companies are looking at nos not the hrs going into it. it is only the smart intelligent planning and execution of it will allow us to RIP for that day.

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This implies for both Public/private

idea posted by R N Bhattacharyya Freelancer, Freelancer
Most executives of major industries hardly sleep for 4/5 hrs a day. It becomes a habit very shortly
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