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Water is cheap and abundantly available than any other fuel
Water could be boiled with the help of battery to produce steam
Batery could be charged by power at homes as charging normal inverter
No emissions of carbon and healthy environment

To run a vehicle entirely on battery would require hughe capacity of battery and lots of power to re-charge it, while my experiment requires a less capacity battery to boil the water and the steam would run the engine

It is difficult handling with Hydrogen energy, since there is apprehension that engine could explode,storing hydrogen energy is a big issue since it is highly flamable, etc etc .... 
  

 
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1 How about experimenting with a Steam Engine ???
2 Great Idea
3 Magnetic Train Will be better Option!

How about experimenting with a Steam Engine ???

idea posted by Mohammed Sadique Project Manager - PMP- TOYOTA Application Support (AS/400 Tech), Abdul Lateef Jameel -TOYOTA

Water is cheap and abundantly available than any other fuel
Water could be boiled with the help of battery to produce steam
Batery could be charged by power at homes as charging normal inverter
No emissions of carbon and healthy environment

To run a vehicle entirely on battery would require hughe capacity of battery and lots of power to re-charge it, while my experiment requires a less capacity battery to boil the water and the steam would run the engine

It is difficult handling with Hydrogen energy, since there is apprehension that engine could explode,storing hydrogen energy is a big issue since it is highly flamable, etc etc .... 
  

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Mr,Nayan has asked some good questions and it would be great if anyone can throw light on that.

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Dear Nayan,

Nice to hear from you, I could not able to post my argument through TOO Step I am receiving an error while posting, though i am a Mechanical Engineering student i had left the subject 13 years back and currently in software management

let say we have a tank capacity of 25 lts capacity to hold the water, then form this tank the water would be moved to a seprate chamber or a boiler of say 3 to 4 lts capacity to produce steam, the power supplied to boiler is from battery(boiling whole 25 lts at a time would be time consuming to heat and produce steam for such capacity)the high pressure steam would then be a passed to a separate chamber where the steam is compressed to produce high pressure energy to move the four stroke or two stroke piston engines (not the turbines) to further transform the heat energy to Mechanical energy which would drive the wheels and also recharge the battery at the same time

The million dollar question is would the high pressure expanded steam would be able to produce the require Mechanical energy

Deb Nayans's reply was

It would depend on the Engine's efficiency, compression ratio of the engine (whether its a petrol or as deisel Engine) and finally whether the power developed by the engine is enough to pull the KERB Weight of the Vehilce together with its maximum payload.

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by Nayan Deb, Automobile Consultant, Autovision Point  | 03 17 2009 17:57:59 +0000

Dear Mr Sadique,

To enable the steam to do the work we need a Turbine and then transmit the torque and the rpm generated by the turbine through the drive train and then to the wheels. Whats the mechanism you have in mind?

Moreover what type of cooling system,  controlling system would you deploy? Any particular battery specification you are having in mind?  Do we recapture the steam and convert into water for reuse or we just keep filling water as the fuel?

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Great Idea

idea posted by B.Mehernath Marketing & Technical Head, Bondit Construction Chemicals Pvt. Ltd.

Good idea, it won't take much time to develop the engine, what we have to do is study the old steam engines how they work and change the techniqe to improve on power and reduce noise, all the books and technology right from James Watt is available. Good thinking...

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Recharging of battery needs power (more than 150% of the spent out put) which need to be generted using other source of energy.

A power generated by a source,  cannot be replinished by another source which use the power from the original source due to efficiency factor and power lost in conversion and inversion  to other forms of energy and back.

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Magnetic Train Will be better Option!

idea posted by Manish Agrawal Product Development Manager, Maruti

Hi

I Like your idea but problem is that to produce steam we need coal or some fuel which will again lead to pollution. So i think Magnetic Train will be the best option in this regard. What do you think? I know establishment cost will be more. but it will save a lot in long terms.

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by indranil , M.A student, Clemson University  | 06 21 2009 10:03:35 +0000

instead of using fossils such as coal to genetate steam we could use electricity, such as coils etc to reduce pollution.

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