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Started by : Veena Gupta, Analyst, Blackstone Group   12 20 2010 07:00:49 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Performance Management(People Management)
Activity:  46 views;  last activity : 01 08 2011 16:35:49 +0000


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This becomes tricky at sometimes, like when do you know it is time to fire someone....as there will be whole lot of things running in ones mind when like deciding to fire someone...like how to break the news and what will be the reaction, thinking all this it becomes all the more difficult like How does one come to know when it is time to fire someone?

 
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1 where employee takes everything for granted
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3 Squre pegs in round holes
4 Fall in performance, absenteeism, misuse of authority, negative rumours...
5 When he is hasitating to do any tasks
6 Introspect
7 Firing is a failure of the officer / manager
8 Spreading company's ill facts..
9 Ask the employee why s/he should not be sacked
10 when new employee frequently goes for leave
11 When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....
12 When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....
13 When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....
14 When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....
15 When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....
16 When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....
17 When he/she is not delivering as earlier

where employee takes everything for granted

idea posted by Veena Gupta Analyst, Blackstone Group

Its like when Employee behaves strangely where the job given is not happening properly or the right results are not coming, its like employee has taken things for granted, and anything told to him there is no proper accountability, and when you see the employee has lost all the interest in the job that he is doing. I think thats the right time to show them the way & fire them.

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I think when you see the employee has lost all the interest in the job that he is doing. I think thats the right time to show them the way & fire them.

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by Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 12 20 2010 12:03:01 +0000

Yes Veena I tend to agree with your point of view. If somebody takes every thing for granted in that case he or she should be warned first and if still there is no change in attitude then should be fired.

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idea posted by Parimal Parmar Freelancer, Freelancer
when skill and will matrix indicate the kpis are not addressed it is time.
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Squre pegs in round holes

idea posted by Dr.G.S.Rama Rao Freelancer

The moment it is  clear that he/she is a square peg  in a round hole and not performing upto the expected level , s/he can be shown the DOOR.

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Fall in performance, absenteeism, misuse of authority, negative rumours...

idea posted by Jaygopal Raghavan Marketing Manager, Landmark Group
There are a number of criteria's by which you can decide when to fire someone but as a manager or more important as a HR functionary one needs to give adequate chances for the employee to reform and inspite of that if their performance is not upto the mark, they dont deserve any sympathy. Just call him/her to your cabin and tell him the circumstances and wish him good luck and handover the pink slip. As simple as that.
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When he is hasitating to do any tasks

idea posted by Chandra shekhar Technical Writer/Quality Assurance, CMMI 3 Software Company, Hyderabad
This change attitude clearly shows that he need some change
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Introspect

idea posted by S. Muralidharan Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
If you find an attitudinal change in an employee, it could be due to various parameters. Merely pointing fingers on the attitude of the individual would end up cleaning up the organisation, per se, in the near future. The coercion could be due to subjectivity, peer pressure, improper behaviour of the superior, taking claim for the employee's hard work sending him behind the scene, coercion by the negative team and adversary for consequences if displayed loyalty, etc. Before showing him door, its time to introspect and figure out the root cause of his sudden change in attitude. Unless, handled in time, there is a perceptible danger of putting the organisation into trouble at a later date!
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Firing is a failure of the officer / manager

idea posted by Gopala Krishnan.H CMD, DJA-Inc
The other way of looking at is the inefficiency of the superior ends up in firing some one. No one is born bad / unfit. It is the management that should find a right job for him, identifying his strengths, than looking for week points and firing.
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Spreading company's ill facts..

idea posted by latha sivan Senior HR, Anmol Technologies
When you see a person who was enthusiastic before but now starts to spread ill facts about the company to the new employees or the current employees and starts to talk about other competitor who are paying more or something good about your competitor then its time to remove the virus as it will infect the current employees and the upcoming employees.
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Ask the employee why s/he should not be sacked

idea posted by Ravi IT PMO, Cricket Communications
Send email to the employee mentioning why you want fire him. Ask him why he should be retained (one on one will help)
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when new employee frequently goes for leave

idea posted by sagar chandrakant patil Management Executive, M & M Industries
If new employee is satified with the job that he has been doing from last 2 to 3 months then his performance will come out positively from the work done. But after few months of joining if he is not showing interest or not performing well , he will try to search another job for which he will demand for leave by showing fake reasons. So we need to track well on such person which will cause to sudden lack of employee to perform important task and show them for resignation.
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When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....

idea posted by suhaschandra deshpande Marketing Associate
When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....We Can Fire With Due Notice...
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When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....

idea posted by suhaschandra deshpande Marketing Associate
When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....We Can Fire With Due Notice...
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When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....

idea posted by suhaschandra deshpande Marketing Associate
When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....We Can Fire With Due Notice...
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When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....

idea posted by suhaschandra deshpande Marketing Associate

When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....We Can Fire With Due Notice...

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When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....

idea posted by suhaschandra deshpande Marketing Associate

When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....We Can Fire With Due Notice...

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When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....

idea posted by suhaschandra deshpande Marketing Associate

When All Ways Of Improvement Are Useless.....We Can Fire With Due Notice...

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When he/she is not delivering as earlier

idea posted by Anand Sharma Monitoring the research funded by DIT, Department of Information Technology
When one can easily calculate the amount of performance declined.
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