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Started by : Kiran Kumar Reddy, Business Analyst, SAP   01 15 2010 11:36:33 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Negotiating salary(Others)
Activity:  616 views;  last activity : 12 05 2010 00:33:19 +0000

Why does one leave their current job, the reasons may be many like, bad bosses, job burn-out, high stress level at work, unhelpful colleagues and lack of growth prospects. And some also hop from one job to another in search of new skills or promotion. However, the reason most people change jobs is for better pay.

As money matters, after all. But negotiating one’s salary well and with confidence is not everyone's comfortable with. In fact, talking about money is something that can sometimes make even the most confident people feel uneasy.  Atleast I have difficulty in negotiating.

So negotiating your salary requires knowing the right technique of going about it and having a clear sense of what one really wants.  So, people I know there would be many like me who has  real difficulty when it comes to negotiating their salary, as there is a HR community and more so there are many professionals on Toostep, I would like to know, How to successfully negotiate your salary? Please share your views as many will be having that feeling of I would have got a better deal if I knew how to negotiate, so share your experiences and give out your views in this regard.

 
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1 Tell them why you really need the hike
2 Know the organization, the role, yourself and the need
3 Do a self appraisal
4 Be the best (top performer)
5 Do not ever beg, maintain your pride..else..
6 Market Analysis
7 continuously enhancing your skills.
8 Strategy is importatnt
9 Know your skills and the market condition
10 Time Play a very big role here
11 Experience does Matter
12 If you need a negotiation each year, leave that job.
13 Negotiation on salary is a false side of action.....
14 Try to read the company structure for their limitation and your ability to stand for the profile for the money looking for

Tell them why you really need the hike

idea posted by Renne Sharma HR Analyst, ABC Consulting

I think what you have suggested is a really good Idea Kiran, I guess that had to do with some experience while negotiating :) But on a serious not one needs to be really frank and tell why they really need a hike and while stating one’s expectations, there should be enough clarity that one is looking for a higher salary because of either a change of location or expenses incurred on child’s education and conveyance etc in the new place would be higher. So, stating why you really need a hike will help you in negotiating a better deal for yourself. Thanks for placing this question here.

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by S Ramesh Kumar, REGIONAL MANAGER-HR, ACSL  | 01 29 2010 13:33:33 +0000

I think we should give a chance to the management to understand our ability and see if they really need us for a long run. If they do so than there is a point to negotiate the salary orelse its better to find another job with better perks. This should be done on self performance appraisal first. if we donot move carefully we will be loosing all pride and comfort what we were enjoying in our company. this is my opinion.

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by Shyam S, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, A leading EDA firm  | 01 22 2010 05:10:13 +0000

Actually it won't ever get you any success if you negotiate with the Management for a better "hike". They might oblige you once, but the next time onwards you will face much more difficulty.

 

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by Ajjay upadhyaya, Marketing Manager, ISFC  | 01 16 2010 06:36:10 +0000

I agree with Renna ,that one must be very clear while negotiating their salary with boss.You must have very concrete reason ,or base on which you want to hike salary.But we should not be shame while negotiating the salary.I agree Kiran with also he has given very good reason that while starting any talk we must do research that what is the trend going on in the market. 

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Know the organization, the role, yourself and the need

idea posted by Raghu Kastury Principal Consultant & Head of Strategic Business Unit - Retail & Distribution, Sundaram Infotech Solutions Limited

To negotiate a better salary is not the right phrase. Nogotiate a correct salary is the right term. The moment you get a better salary than you deserve, organisation is going to realise that soon and you will slow down in next increments if you dont perform far exceeding expectations - which is usually not easy.

So to negotiate correct salary, one should clearly understand Oraganisation in all respects - How they value their resources, such as human resources, financial resources. You should know about the working culture, their ambitious plans about the growth or their struggle for the survival. Internal organizational issues and the coherence of views between the top managers.

You should also know very well what is the role. DO you have clear idea of the role and will you be sticking to that role or after 3 or 6 months of period will you be shifted downwards or horizontally? Are you getting in to a vacancy or are you occupying a newly created role. If you are getting into a newly created role, expect some corrections as the role matures or you handle the role.

Know your capabilities thoroughly. You can't take up roles which are beyond your capabilities. Then you will not have confidence to ask for the right salary at the same time you feel you are not getting enough for the role. On the otherhand, employer feels you are not doing justice to the salary you are drawing.

 using the knowledge of these three factors and the need for the role in the organization, prepare your case, points that will sell you and the amount of risk you can take to handle the new position etc. Finally arrive at a number beyond which you shouldn't go down. If you are not getting that number either your assessment is wrong or you are asking for too much and ultimately you are yielding for the low rate or there is not that much need which you also know thus you are agreeing with reluctance.

If you stick to the number beyond which you can't go down or up, you will be satisfied with your negotiations.

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by Raghu Kastury, Principal Consultant & Head of Strategic Business Unit - Retail & Distribution, Sundaram Infotech Solutions Limited  | 01 21 2010 16:47:29 +0000

For oversees, there is a lot of information available on web sites like Hoovers, Hewitt IHL etc. You can gather from various web resoources

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by Kiran Kumar Reddy, Business Analyst, SAP  | 01 18 2010 08:15:42 +0000

Thanks Kastury sir for your elaborated view on this point, seriously there is so much to know in this regard, I am really thankful for all those people who have commented here, I am certainly sure that i have gained something today with so many comments that i have read today and will surely implement them, thanks once again :)

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by R sanjeev Kumar, Project Manager, Alfanar co  | 01 16 2010 12:13:55 +0000

this is correct way of thinking all we need to understand the summury as know yourself and your selling ablity along with buying capacity of the other end.  take care some company extend indirect benifits that ultimatlym CTC will be much bigger.  be carefull CTC and salary  both are totallly diffarent.

one need to be smart in presenting himself. negotiation should be a workable solution for both parties.

if we could gather enough info then we could act and react. as detailed by Mr. RAGHU,  BUT WHAT IF you are attanding oversea interview  ????

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Do a self appraisal

idea posted by Kiran Kumar Reddy Business Analyst, SAP

After so many negotiations, atleast I have gained some knowledge, one should do their self appraisal and then think realistically what is their worth in the organization, and based upon those facts one should negotiate their salary. And also one should know the current industry trends like what is the percentage of hike elsewhere one is offering and with this one has to go about negotiating their salary it should not be too high or too low as the first one gives the impression of that you are here for just financial gain and the latter gives you dissappointment in the longer run. So this is what I have learnt in all these years while not negotiating my salary properly and I would like others to help people like me out in negotiating for a better salary. please give your Ideas in this regard.

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by Azhar Kazmi, Professor, King Fahd University of Petroleum & Minerals  | 01 15 2010 12:00:17 +0000

Looking for a widely accept benchmark such as industry standards or comparative jobs in other sectors could be a good starting point for salary negotiations. Personal attributes for the job under negotiations of course matter a lot.

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Be the best (top performer)

idea posted by Martynas Sklizmantas Systems engineer, eBuddy

and salary will follow. If you like what you do and you allocate time to improve yourself - this is the easiest way to get salary raises, you don't really need to negotiate, just state that you would be glad to receive increase. 

It is also good test how you are perceived (if your job is valued and needed). 

This way is not for everyone. 

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Do not ever beg, maintain your pride..else..

idea posted by Shyam S Project Leader/Managing Consultant, A leading EDA firm

Actually it won't ever get you any success if you negotiate with the Management for a better "hike". They might oblige you once, but the next time onwards you will face much more difficulty.

If you do not like a job, just change. 

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Market Analysis

idea posted by Ashutosh Pandita Sr Business Manager-IT Search, Quadrangle-Infoedge India

I think doing a market analysis should help negotiating the salary well.It helps a person to understand his current salary and negotiations could be done basis the analysis,role and cost of living(in case of relocation).

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continuously enhancing your skills.

idea posted by Mohit Trivedi Game Developer in Emantras

i think good skills always appreciated by company by giving good salary...

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by Subramanian , Business/EDP Analyst, Zensar Technologies Ltd  | 12 05 2010 00:33:19 +0000

I dont agree. One should understand what is good skills. It is all relative and arbitrary in the hands of the appraisar. If that be the case under the good skills guise favourtism and nepotism will rule. How many resources in an organisation know about his colleague's earnings though in the same band. There are too many disparity in the earnings of resources in a same band all because of some tough bargaining and need of the time. If that be so where is the question of good skills?

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Strategy is importatnt

idea posted by R.K.KEYAN TECHNICAL MANAGER, ATC

Hi Kiran,

It is not about neogociation the salary, You should creat a situtaion that they need you so your strategy should be storng in terms of technicality.In that case you are in more demand So creat stratey is imporatant

 

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by Leena Pawar, Tech Architect, IT Infotech  | 02 03 2010 09:23:42 +0000

Well said Keyan, thats true. When your are strong in something you will automatically get recognized. No need for negotiation.   

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Know your skills and the market condition

idea posted by hemant nautiyal Manager sales north, Accurate Group of Companies

The best way to negotiate the salary is to first know your skills and check the KRA of the position you are being offered. See the challenges you will be facing and the market trend and be confident when you discuss the same with company. Instead of negotiating on the salary make company aware of your skills and the benefits you can bring in short & long terms. If the company is convinced on this then there is little room for negotiations. You will get what you want.

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Time Play a very big role here

idea posted by Ravinder Pundir Sr. Consultant/Business Analyst, Cisco Systems

I agree with all that market research , self appraisal , values & contributin the work one has done towards achieving the organization goals & objectives , performance and knowledge helps a lot while doing the negotiating process but still I find time is something which really play a very crucial role in deciding the final outcome of the process which shouldn't be ingored on..I think we have to start the negotiation process right time in the year rather waiting for it to come and then create our own case with all the information & data points which could be helpful in supporting the negotiable process in our favour...

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Experience does Matter

idea posted by Bhavesh Desai Associate/Sr. Associate -(Technical), Tata Consultancy Services (TCS)

You will be counted upon your total years of experience as well. Mostly there will be a marginal increase during your career's initial 2-4 yrs. After you gain some good experience in your domain its up to you how far you want to go. Its than purely a negotiation skills and sometimes you need to produce other good offer in hand to get better appraisal as this is how normally you get noticed.

 

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If you need a negotiation each year, leave that job.

idea posted by Atilla Sahin Freelancer, Freelancer

If you  were there more than 3 years and still think how negotiate you and the company are not suitable each other. Leave the job immediately and find a new job.

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Negotiation on salary is a false side of action.....

idea posted by Santosh Dwivedi Media N' Marketing

Every organisation must have a very justifiable and fixed salary structure based on the positioning. If it is not available in that organisation, you should out rightly quit that organisation.

Please remember, you can negotiate on working conditions, expertise and positioning side with your employers in view of utilising your potential in a better way in the interest of the organisation...

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Try to read the company structure for their limitation and your ability to stand for the profile for the money looking for

idea posted by R sanjeev Kumar Project Manager, Alfanar co

Try to read the company structure for their limitation and your ability to stand for the profile for the money you are looking for.

it is impartant to read the person infront of you, this is applicable for all negotiation if you have impressed him then start confusing him with more to estoblish the credit note for your salary. if you have not impressed regarding work personality. dont try extra on money.

Second step is read company limits and tyour limits.

 

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