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FALSE OVARY NOT ARTIFICIAL...
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Freedom to express sexual feelings
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WHEN WOMEN DEMAND SEX ... & ... MEN GIVE... !
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Freedom - Its all in our mind....First understand each other...
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i just suggested an option Diksha...i truely respect nature's gift
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Dont highlight Sex
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No ovaries...........why artificial
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Are you serious???
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SEXUAL FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE....... NEVER
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Surrogacy as an impediment to sexual freedom
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False ovary and avoidance of menstrual cycle
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please see the other angle
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sexual freedom for men too
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Preposterous idea....
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sorry friends,all of yours is very very wrong comments,
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Freedom to expres sexual feelings
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rubbing the wrong side
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Historical facts
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No comments
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WHEN WOMEN DEMAND SEX ... & ... MEN GIVE... !
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SEXUAL FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE....... NEVER
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women is free to express her desires who says no.
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always play safe
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Today ,when most of the Indian young lot are busy marrying and running their home based fertility project and adding a handful more to the ever blooming Indian Population every single second. Its challenging for women who chooses to be single and contributing towards the betterment of Indian Economy and Society.Castration was a possible solution used in older times in countries like UK to check it.Its emotionally and hormonally depressing for women loosing their bit every month which result in absenteeism from workplace and precursor of other women health problems like PMS,migraine,depression,insomnia,etc.Ofcourse fear of cases of sexual harassment and rowdy male colleagues are always there who ejaculate at the mere sight of the fairer sex...False ovary can probably be solution to this, where women choosing to be single can surgically remove her ovaries and thermosets(Plastic Polymer Laminates) or, other prosthetic construction material can be used to create false ovary of the real ovary size and fill the organal void...while the hormonal level of estrous cycle can be maintained by use of oral hormonal supplement equivalent to the regular oral contraception options.By this the major health problems can be reduced to mere thyroid problem where the regular thyroxine supplements solves the problem.Research and Development should be done on this topic,its essential where women can too be Sexually and mentally free of all tensions and working hand in hand with men in professional life without any fear. |
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it is nothing about nature maam. if you have the technique to bring women out of depression (55% of urban women suffer from depression at any point of time in their life) then it is ok.
just imagine what our population would have been if we had no birth control pills and condoms. we as humans must understand the enormous ability we have to control nature and if something good comes out of it, then there is no harm.
it is nothing about nature maam. if you have the technique to bring women out of depression (55% of urban women suffer from depression at any point of time in their life) then it is ok.
just imagine what our population would have been if we had no birth control pills and condoms. we as humans must understand the enormous ability we have to control nature and if something good comes out of it, then there is no harm.
"Sexually and mentally free of all tensions and working hand in hand with men in professional life without any fear"- What do you mean by this?
That even women can go out of bounds to have their carnal desires satisfied with anybody or anywhere anytime.... just like men? And this you call "FREEDOM"? It's very sad to know that we, the people in such an advanced era of technology, can still resort to any kind of artificial, unnatural, synthetic solution at the cost of our health, relations, and our conscience. We can go to remove a part off our very body, but.... but we are not ready to control our animal behavior of being carnally active towards our relatives, our colleagues and our friends!!! These things can be a solution for time being, but in the long run, the society and people who want "freedom" in such things have to grow and learn to control the urges! Men or women, we need to keep ourselves clean- physically and mentally...that's what is HUMAN! I don't mean to be rude but there is no "FREEDOM" in this! I support Joydeep! And Suyashi, if you think that your colleagues or whoever isn't good, get out of there! PLEASE DON'T generalize.
Best Regards.
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A women is a not just a sex object. She also got feelings n need to express it. But due to our so called society today women have lost all hope n freedom of expression. I strongly scream out n say that plz allow her to express herself. Suyashi....just love you ...for raisisng this topic.... |
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i guess that time is not far when false ovaries would be brought into the system. It is not going against mother nature..however if something is good we should not show any dissonance towards it. I understand that idea was to bring in a false ovary which can help women come out of misery. Stats state that around 55% of urban women suffer from depression at some of time in their life and this mainly drives from lack of sex. This is true we should not turn away from it. I agree that we should not go against nature however just imagine if there were no birth control pills, condoms how had we controlled (or tried to) our o=ever increasing population. If we have the power to control things we should do it.
Freedom yes. But not at the workspot. And freedom has to be a two-way freedom, and not necessarily tilted towards one sex. And as Ms. Bindu says, a lady can express herself to a male. So far so good - This is called power of expression and freedom. But can a male express himself similarly? This however will be called "Sexual Advances, asking for favours etc." This topic of "freedom" has to be kept outside of the office. Any adventures that you want to do should not be with office colleagues - There is a very thin line between consensual and "rape"
One really wonders what these persons have in mind! They do express themselves in an 'out of the way' fashion. May be, that is how business is developed these days using women as a force! Working with the Americans must be a great privilege!
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YES... That will be true Sexual freedom for Women, when they demand SEX ( like Men normally do ) & Men Give.
Otherwise what GOD created in genders is quite okay. The only problem is with Men demanding SEX & women are psychologically supposed to give it. If this is stopped, WOmen will have SEXUAL FREEDOM.
Cheers !
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Can anyone define what is sexual freedom? Is it for being promiscuous? or Is it the right in asking one's partner to attend to one's sexual desire? As far as the former is concerned, I do not think that should be the discussion point here. Now if its mainly the latter issue, a common saying goes "Crying baby gets the milk". But unfortunately, even if the female partner cries out her desire; mostly it will be turned down.....That's tormenting for her.....but a solution can be found. First of all, understand each other. Study have shown that most men tend to have arousal early in the morning, while women feels before going to sleep. Regarding this there was a beautiful article that came in MSN. It said, this is mainly due to the stressful life style that every individual goes through and the daily hormonal variations. The catch point is how one manages it. Men prefer to sleep and get de-stressed and wake up fresh for anything and everything. Women on the other hand has several other hormonal issues due to which she prefers to de-stress before going to sleep and though she would be fresh next morning, she would be waking up with the stress of starting and managing the day right from day break. This tend to put them off. and therefore result in stalemate. This perhaps happens in almost every household (a good ex. movie Life in Metro). But there are ways to overcome it. What's the solution? The main culprit is "STRESS", an inevitable in current life style. Find ways to de-stress before going to bed itself. Simple things like: 1. being together as family or just two of you discussing and sharing thoughts (irrelevant most preferred, so that it deviates one from the nagging issues of the day running at the back of one's mind) . 2. having an early and light (not heavy in oil, masalas, calories and proteins) nutritious dinner. A stuffed stomach is a common turn off factor for various reasons. 3. leave some time between food and bed (1- 2 hr). 4. Steal some night fresh air (if possible) through casual walk. Carry them out, and check now how men/women respond to each others need.... !-)
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@ Dr.K Prabhakar, clarification....Sir, when I said daily hormonal variation; I meant mainly the variation induced due to stress as well as the variation happening in woman's body. I was not trying to touch upon the point of circadian rhythm (although it may have its role, its a vast topic on its own to be discussed here).
Apart from the stress, Pheromones also play a great role in turning ON or OFF a person. I am not competent enough to elaborate on it though.
NB: Suyashi in her statement "Sexual freedom for women" , as I now understand (from her comment) was to a woman's right in choosing how she can avoid the menstrual burden in order to be competitive with men with MCP attitude at all time....and not the right for women to express her sexual desire....if I am not wrong.
If this is true, then I apologize for deviating the topic. However, I do believe this deviated view point will also hold good for the argument.
Dear Dr.Shiva, Is it possible for you to clarify your point of view from Circadian Rhymes~ It appears your argument is different from that of Circadian Rhymes in humans. You are looking at the modern day world with stress. I wish to see that from that of natural rhymes. Thanks for your posting. I agree with that this posting is not about promiscuity or polygamy.
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don't we remove gall bladder...if its a problem...i never meant to demean the recreational power of women... |
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I guess the society is in transformational phase wherin women are at par with men..n equally demanding even if its sexual freedom..Cum 2020 this topic would be vanished like anything..& Some1 raised the issue of having natural ovaries problem so they go for artificial1..Gal i have a migrane in my head..but wudn't kill myself..Let nature take its own course..in an era of Yogas replacing medicines,nature food replacing junk food,people are exploring more into primitive human evolution..we talk of replacing our body parts with artificail one's..:-(
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I have seen all the arguments posted before mine and came to the conclusion that most of the people is considering the topic is only related with SEX. Dr Venugopal & Madam Jugnu Shah r considering it the right way. First of all one should elaborate freedom and then it should be inter relate with human desire in the sense.
As far as sexual freedom is concerned many has supported on demand sex by women. What is this? When man demand sex, its wrong n u all are asking to commit another blunder.
No body remember a word marriage. I used just word for marriage because many stated or supported the feelings for sex. Marriage serves a lot n its one among them. You can start loving your life partner or just find a life partner n till try to hide your feelings. Dont forget we r Indian n please try 2 be Proud Indian.
I have lot 2 right in this topic but i prefer 2 see some more ideas n all. Mentality of some more.......
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Hey Suyashi,
A gr8 topic and very relevant in today's new economic paradigms.
I just luv ur guts and commitment to the idea for a debate.
Must also state that you have phrased your debate well and articulated beautifully.
In line with your view.......why? have a ovary at all ........I know women who enjoy sex more, demand sex at will and have greater sexual desires after ovary removal.
The fillip side is that sweetheart you and I have No control on Nature's cycle and that's the way it is to be irrespective of how much we may ideate or opine.
Any medical research now or in past will take another 50 years to cummulate anything near your perception of freedom for sex.
Western worlds with huge budgets on medical and human research have not come out with any emancipated idea for women since 1700 nor have any women really complained about it.
I think sexual freedom in women amongst women Of Modern India is a mind set as they want to set themselves free from the cudgels of Indian Men's tyranny/savage heirarchial tradition of forcing women for sex at their will.
Women find themselves independent enough to say F.O. & create their own parameters for fair game sex in bed.
Your idea is just a vindication of Todays women wild ideas of
emancipation which must be judged by the sheer depth of your desire to equate with male gender rathar than the practicality.
sanjay singhal
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I do not support your idea Sanjay. Though women work their work is underestimated. Let us take the example of Love Lace. Do you know that this woman who is daughter of Lord Byron has invented the modern day computer programmes before Charles Babbage. However, being a women her work was never appreciated nor acknowledge.She has to read Mathematics stealthily! so that her Victorian parent do not take offence to her behavior. The situation is not different even now. Do not look at few women in Mumbai, Chennai and few of them who work in computer organizations and come to conclusion that women have achieved better status. Please do villages and see for yourself how the exploitation is happening.
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I am surprised to see this topic in Idea contest..........What is this???.......Fears can not be removed completely from one's mind and to overcome fears these Ideas are amazing and reflects our mental status....GOD BLESS YOU...
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I am sorry Yogendra and Monika. Why not this topic? what is wrong with women coming out with their ideas.It is not a crime. Do you think women need not talk about sex? It is painful to make women slave of men. Why not they describe the process. If a man posts the same do you agree with it? Why we are misogynists like this? Should we say that women has not rights to talk about sexuality? Monica- Do you really agree with the statement that every one knows about this. You will be surprised the knowledge is so poor among men and women. It is to build awareness to say that women are should have equal rights with respect to sex without entangled in to family. Why not a women ask this question? I am also surprised by the statement God bless you as if some wrong has happened.
u r absolutely g888888888888 Mr Yogendra Singh Ji b'coz i also surprised to see this topic and discuss given by some people on it how they can be so clearly explained these things openly on net when every one know & understand all this thing easily well i don't want to tell any thing on this topic
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Though nature has not provided us pheromones or estrous cycle so its our duty to control ourselves. otherwise what was the need to develop society or marriages just remain ADAM & EVE of ancient times, like animals & whoever can do sex by any means will have right to sex.
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the above mentioned traits are important in each & every relationship, not only to sexual expression. what is the meaning of expressing one's desire or inclination to public or everyone. could it be better if the same desire has being expressed to other person who is not her/his spouse??
What I mean is if society allows women to express her sexuality freely, there are dangers of rising promiscuity and/or polygamy as chances of getting involved with more than one man would become easy. Or say Men would take advantage of women who would be free to express her sexuality or desires. Closed society is better for women since she would be protected and secured enough thus making life smoother instead of making life complicated.
Dear Jugnu Shah, This topic is not on promiscuity or polygamy. This is on women sexual freedom, which is totally different from that of promiscuity or polygamy. Why words of commitment, honesty, faithfulness and loyalty for women only is the question? Why all of you rise like medieval mullahs or rabbis or swamis to put down women?
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Motherhood being so delicate but yet having metamorphosised from the concept of sexual freedom of women. In India, there is no definite legislation governing surrogacy ,as compared to the Surrogacy laws of European Countries which are too strict. As there is no definite law, the same lacuna is being used to coax innocent women to surrogate babies for foreign childless couples. While law is in no manner opposed to the basic natural phenomenon of motherhood,at the same time, law is opposed to the reckless commercialization of this very instinctive human phenomenon. Unscrupulous men have seen this a commercial event and hence have started exploiting poor women to fulfill their devilish material designs of acquiring wealth from innocent childless couples at the cost of innocent women by giving them a square of few thousands and recalling the entire profit to themselves. Moreover the concept of surrogacy in India being mostly devoid of any tidal legislation and being a cheap and no-risk affair in India,foreign childless couples have turned to India for their need. It is too despicable for Indian women to be exploited at the hands of few rogues in the name of helping childless couples who are taking advantage of the absence of laws relating to surrogacy. The issue as to nationality of the child born by way of such surrogacy was a hot tea affair a few days ago, but it seems none is interested now. People are still puzzled as to what would be the nationality of the child born by way of surrogacy-Indian or else. Laws relating to Citizenship in India and that of the foreign couple are at loggerheads and still lot of issues are to follow suit. While I invited myself to analyse the most innocent form of Sexual freedom of women , the initial word that I could transpire was Motherhood.It is the freedom of every women to be mother or not. In other words, the sexual freedom of women having delicately metamorphosised into the glorious phenomenon of motherhood. When the same freedom is being abused at the hands of few greedy monsters,I am unable to understand the meaning of Sexual Freedom in its true sense and meaning. I strongly mean it, that we need Definite laws governing surrogacy to save innocent women from being exploited at the hands of few greedy perverts so as to materialize the true meaning of sexual freedom of women. Are we doing enough is the question? |
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Sorry, Suyashi, I got you wrong by reading your post as an advocacy for 'sexual freedom' rather than simple avoidance of menstrual periods. Go ahead and substitute whatever part, limb or organ that can be replaced with synthetic ones, if you feel a compelling need to do so. God does not seem to be there to prohibit or prevent human beings from simulating or tinkering with nature or even seriously harming themselves in ever so many ways! Also, as for the kind of 'rowdyism' witnessed in co-educational institutions or 'sexual harassment' at the place of work, one must remember that in every civilized society apart from the mainstream culture, based on certain norms of behaviour at home, at the workplace or anywhere else generally, there are always sub-cultures that do encourage delinquency or criminality and that is why there are laws, law enforcement agencies and infliction of various forms of punishment by the society by way of retribution, deterrence or reformation and rehabilitation. In practice, however, all man-made, secular institutions to enforce the norms of the mores of a society may not be working in an effective or optimal manner, but whatever remedies or reliefs that do exist must be availed of and one should not normally resort to out-of-the-way, nay, bizarre modes of redress for all the real or imagined harms. The reaction should be tempered by reason! Generally, public discussion is a way to achieve consensus on any controversial issue! |
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dear madam i understand ur consern about female sexuality but dont just see the facts as others see please explore it deeply and eloberate .let me clarify my views firstly i never ever meant that sexuality is sex-act.becos true sex act is just 1% of human sexuality .sexuality in its true meaning is the way a person expresses himself or herself the feeling of being a man in men body and being a women in women body is sexuality .every act of talking walking dressing and commuinication all come under sexuality of that particular gender.If u had experienced the ture love and care of motherhood then its women sexuality ,a caring sister towards brother ,loving wive ,compassionate collegue all are expressing their sexuality and thats never being confused with seduction or other nonsence stuffs. so women do express her feelings and sexuality very well and i never see any hinderence in it infact its good for the society and community but how men interpret is different and also women like u should see it in different angle then taking a side and screaming fo what is already there
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I agree totally with Dr Venugopal. At last I found somebody on this site who would be viewing it totally through appropriate angle. It's not about Men or Women after all. Every person has freedom to express himself/herself whether it's regarding sexuality or any other expression:it all depends on evolution of your soul.
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I opine personally that it is a Britannia 50:50 ;It all depends on the mutual relation
ship of the spouses legitimacy;though i do agree it is not favorable towards the fairer sex.A lot more is required by the opposite sex to give their better half.
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First of all Suyashi, thanks for the wonderful debate. Very relevant in todays time. But dont get me wrong - potraying the sexuality of a woman and claiming her to be wronged is one thing and then claiming women do not have sexual freedom is yet another thing. Like one of the participants suggested it is all about evolving one's soul. From your viewpoint it seems that all women colleagues working in an organisation with men are being raped or sexually assaulted every minute. Or because of a woman's sex and the problems associated with it, they do not have the freedom to pursue their career !It is wrong ! Especially in our country women have all the freedom as men. Just look at your counterparts in the gulf and you would know what freedom means ? Again like someone said, he wouldnt take of his head just because he is suffering a headache is also quite relevant. Running away from problems or finding wierd solutions arent going to help you. God created women the way they are and that means to be an object of sexual desire and to have the associated worries like PMS, periods etc. But god also gave women the child bearing boon which itself is unique. While many women may not agree with this, just talk to the millions of women who are unable to bear a child and you will change your opinion. Even if you are in a relationship you should have the mental strength to say no to sex or get close enough to loose yourself to sex. Quite often women themselves are the provocateurs. And dont forget the increasing number of men sufferring at the hands of women sexually or otherwise.
At the end of the day it all boils down to one simple thing - CHOICES. Choices that each one of us make. Indra Nooyi wouldnt have slept her way through to become the CEO of PEPSI. Hillary clinton wouldnt have done the same. And mind you both of them had perfect families and reared children of their own and not adopted them. So if they can go through all these situations and yet come out on top in their chosen field why cant others. See, the problem here is Women are used to getting preferential treatment everywhere while claiming to be discriminated against on the other. I for one havent understood till today why women need to be given space to go to the head of a que when others are sweating it out in the same line and then claim equality in life. If you claim equality, learn to do everything on equal terms. Get used to the door being chut on your face or the toilet seat being kept up and so on. From all this please dont get the worng idea that i am against women. I have the greatest respect for them but cant understand the double standards expected from men.
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sorry friends,all of yours is very very wrong comments,because in our Indian culture sexual contact between one man and one woman.
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Hi Evrybdy, Wen we speak abt US (Men) we hve freedm to express sexual feelings bt wen it cmes for WOMEN thn y nt ? Y thy cnt express thir FEELINGS ? If anybdy ask me i mst say tht WOMEN has also right to express thir FEELINGS.
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dear suyashi i think handling it physiologically will not address the psycological blocks.This can be handled only through education .
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History shows us that in actuality women only do the chosing job and men have to toil very much to attract and maintain their attention. So this notion of giving sexual freedom for women is false.
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It is depend upon how you look/take at your life, so it's an individual decision, so to keep mum is the best option. |
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Dear Bindu, I absolutely agree with you. The women should be given whole freedom to put in her own wish and will before submitting to men's wish. I mean there must be equal freedom for each one.
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Though nature has not provided us pheromones or estrous cycle so its our duty to control ourselves. otherwise what was the need to develop society or marriages just remain ADAM & EVE of ancient times, like animals & whoever can do sex by any means will have right to sex.
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every one is free to express her/his desire and women are also included in it.where is the problem and what exactly you want.now a days women express her desire and unwillingness towards sex frankly with their partners.why insisting sex only why not other freedom also,you must think over the words. |
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i m not agreed with the ideas given above b coz all the ideas discussed above have many loopholes which cannot be medically as well as socially accepted.regarding sexual freedom for women i want to say they are free to access what they want as do male but there are so many social inhibition which can only be over come by changing our mindset for women bcoz they are also by birth as same as men. Physiologically they also have same urge for sex similarly as men have.Even after living in 21st century we have not consensus for sexual freedom for women there fore my view is that they can also express their feelings n fulfill there needs but keeping in mind to have safe sex
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