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Started by : Ameet Ranjan, Regional HR - North India, Maclellan Integrated Services India Pvt Ltd   02 06 2010 06:50:44 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Talent Management(People Management)
Activity:  135 views;  last activity : 07 06 2010 20:18:09 +0000

All of you know that Indian economy is expanding and with this expansion demand of manpower of has been increase tremendously. This tremendous demand of manpower has resulted in “Talent Shortage”.

But as a HR professional do you think it is a talent shortage or companies are expecting high from the candidates?

Most of the time as a HR personnel when you shortlist the candidate based on the JD either he was rejected on the first instance by the department or after taking the interview. Are the companies are expecting very high from these candidates?

Companies can also let them to join and later develop the missing competencies by the help of training.

But it is a rare sight and at the end all of us say “There is a talent shortage in the market”

So, Let us discuss on this topic today.

 
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1 Companies and Recruiters Expecting High
2 Difficulties to descover hidden qualities and skills
3 lack of training ,thus lack operational acumen
4 Come 2reality : Why 'talents' should join U ?
5 Expecting High from the Candidates?
6 come out of office
7 Differentiate: Qualification OR Talent?

Companies and Recruiters Expecting High

idea posted by Gargi Sinha Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates

Everyone is moaning about not being able to find the quality candidates they think they need. Maybe they have caused their own problem by narrowly defining jobs, by using yesterday’s criteria to solve today’s problems, and by a lack of imagination. Hiring managers, executives, HR folks, and recruiters have set up expectations and define jobs based on what is traditional. This is not necessarily bad, but may not match the current needs or the available supply. Many emerging jobs require a new perspective, rather than an entirely new skill set. The real challenge is perspective, attitude, and sometimes the willingness to work for less.

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by RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants  | 02 09 2010 11:05:13 +0000

I agree in part with what Gargi has said. There is definitely no shortage of talents in this country. We rule most of the talent out by narrowly defining jobs too much. A job profile is created more to eliminate those who are totally unsuitable than to select those who are a 100% fit. A perfect fit is anyway not practical. A broad fit is more relevant because that person has enough in synch to do the job and enough not in synch to bring in fresh ideas and fresh outlook to the organization. A perfectly fitting employee is more grown in house than identified from outside. That part of the growth is part of the growth path of the employee and his satisfaction in the job. So, of late the emphasis on technology has driven the job profiling to be more and more specific and that in turn has kept the candidates away.

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by manikanta raj, Deputy Manager Finance, project financing, leading Financing company  | 02 09 2010 10:37:04 +0000

yes gargi is right. In short i can say companies are expecting very high from the candidates but in reality the performance to be delivered is low. why recruiters expect high when requirement to deliver is low is really an unexplainable chapter. I had many experiences where the expectation at the time of recruitment and questions they ask on the subject is very high and when it really comes to performance of job it is purely fundamentals, for which company is also paying very high and supports that as MNC standards.

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Difficulties to descover hidden qualities and skills

idea posted by Gilbert PRIEUR Morphopsychologist Expert, Nemopsy

It is difficult for recruiters to find hidden skills and qualities. They are afraid and can tak no risk so they stay where everything is evident, they cannit go further due to the economical pressure and stress.

 

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by Abhinav Pradhan, MBA/PGDM Student, National Institute of Applied Management  | 02 11 2010 06:09:38 +0000

my mail id is pradhan.abhinav@gmail.com

we'll be in contact through mails.

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by Abhinav Pradhan, MBA/PGDM Student, National Institute of Applied Management  | 02 11 2010 06:06:00 +0000

i am working as a consultant for some of the businesses,how can i be benifited by this, i need to know.

on the other hand this science is all bout HR where as for HR is just one of the factor which we consider in analysing the businesses.

Lets work together

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by Gilbert PRIEUR, Morphopsychologist Expert, Nemopsy  | 02 10 2010 16:09:10 +0000

Abhinav, I thank you really for visiting my web site. You can understand the idea of the method but of course you cannot say you KNOW it. I have been studying for more than ten years now and you cannot say you know everyhting (neither can I).

You just forgot that with this method you can understand the real hidden capability of people. Of course you do not beleive me but I KNOW it is posible. On the contrary it is not possible to explain it without experiencing it. I read many books written by Corman the man who created this method. I'm still studying, of couse there are many things you have to discover.

Never mind, I think it was a good thing to discuss about it. If you want more information it wil be a pleasure for me to give it to you. Just write me and we'll find an agreement on that.

I don't want to go on controversy. I'm sure you want to learn more about porphopsychology. Let's do it.

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lack of training ,thus lack operational acumen

idea posted by kawaljit kaur pgdbm student , Mount Carmel Institute of Management

there is acute shortage of institutions that impart job oriented training .the recruitment done at college level will always provide companies with candidates that are green ,need exposure before handing them bigger assignments  ,they should be made to assist on bigger projects hence to gain hold over intracacies involved in dealing with various aspects associated with them.before appiontment itself companies should invest in providing them with enough industry interface and encourage there involvment there is nothing like shortage of talent but lack of infrastructure to nuture that talent .

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by mbhingnekar , Head/VP/GM-Production/Manufacturing, mahagenco,maharashtra  | 02 10 2010 14:28:09 +0000

It is right that there is a lack of training,thus lack of operational acumen.

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Come 2reality : Why 'talents' should join U ?

idea posted by ASOKE KUSARI Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India

Be practical and come to reality : Talents are something exceptional, why talented people should join your company ?

You may stick to your requirements and parameters. Shortlist some who ( may be ) interested to join you.

Follow the old saying : A bird in the hand is two worth in the bush. A real talent might be in the "bush" - and be satisfied with whom who  has shown interest to join you .. !! Remember : you recommended his/her entry.

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by Gilbert PRIEUR, Morphopsychologist Expert, Nemopsy  | 02 09 2010 15:54:25 +0000

A bird in the hand is two worth in the bush I appraciate this but it is possible, I suppose, to recruit a person that doe not fit exactly the profile but who is worth recruiting, I it not?

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Expecting High from the Candidates?

idea posted by Ameet Ranjan Regional HR - North India, Maclellan Integrated Services India Pvt Ltd

Many times there are requirements from the companies, that they want a person for the job who is proficient in each and every aspect.

Well no body is 100% in this world. This type of position creates difficulty for the HR Manager. He has to find a candidate who is 100% in every aspect which is a Herculean task.

And the end to make the situation more difficult you has to find the 100% candidate in the “Proposed Salary Bracket”.

Can’t we hire an average candidate and then train him to become 100%???However we need to identify the areas on which the training is to be covered on.
I think the basic problem is that every company has its own style of working and its not possible to get employees who have been working in the same manner.

So basically there is a need to train people on organization processes and procedures. And believe me that makes a big difference in bringing up the talent of employees up to the company level.

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by pankaj gupta, Officer P & A, Simplex Infrastructure Limited  | 02 06 2010 16:02:00 +0000

the thing is like that, companies are not expecting more from the candidates,although the students are not upgrading them self according to the emerging trend.so there is a need of bridging between the company requirement and student emergence . 

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come out of office

idea posted by Abhinav Pradhan MBA/PGDM Student, National Institute of Applied Management

HR should come out of office and search the best people by giving them live projects.

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Differentiate: Qualification OR Talent?

idea posted by Makrand Bhave AGM - Corporate Business, E18, part of Network 18 Group

Most companies have a very stringent view of looking at a desired candidates profile. So when they put in a recruitment ad, the most specific area of consideratrion on the candidates part id the QUALIFICATION!

HR have a multiple reasoning here, they have to convince the senior management that they would need a highly qualified candidate to fill the position and at the same time to llok at candidates who are not qualified but have the experience and hence the talent!! This is the dilemma.

There has to be a clear perspective in the selection process. It must be clear that people who are "deserving" need to be called, spoken to , assessed and then the "right" candidate be selected. Whden an ad is released you have an exodus of people who are qualified and experienced and who are not really qualified but experienced and talented who apply. Once the seiving process is clear with the organisation it is easier.

I seriously do not feel that there is any talent shortage, companies just need to relook at their process of recruiting and ensure that people who are called for even an interview are at least "deserving" and both kinds of candidates are given an equal opportunity to prove their worth. Companies should not aim so high that they lose out on real talent who can actually take the company high!!!

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