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Cool Aazing Convversation - Pretty long but worth readindg.

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and.....

Prof:-So you believe in God?

Student:-Absolutely, sir.

Prof: -Is God good?

Student:-Sure.

 

Prof:-Is God all-powerful?

Student: -Yes.

Prof:-My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

(Student is silent.)

Prof:-You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow Is God well?

Student:-Yes.

Prof:-Is Satan good?

Student: - No.

 

Prof:-Where does Satan come from?

 

Student:-From...God....

Prof:-That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student:-Yes.

Prof:-Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

 

Student:-Yes.

Prof:-So who created evil?

(Student does not answer.)

Prof:-Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

 

Student:-Yes, sir.

Prof:-So, who created them?

(Student has no answer.) 

Prof:-Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you everseen God?

Student:-No, sir.

Prof:-Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

 

Student:-No, sir.

Prof:-Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student:-No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

 

Prof: -Yet you still believe in Him?

Student:-Yes.

Prof:-According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

 

Student:-Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof:-Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student:-Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof:-Yes.

Student:-And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof:-Yes.

Student:-No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student-: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that.There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student:-What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof:-Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student:-You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof:-So what is the point you are making, young man?

 

Student:-Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof:-Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student:-Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof:-If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student:-Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student:-Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? 

(The class is in uproar.)

Student:-Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: - Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Prof:-I guess you'll have to take them on faith,son.

Student:-That is it sir.... The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.


 

 

  • Thanks to my friend Vishal Parikh for Shairng this converstion with me.

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Prof:-So you believe in God?

Student:-Absolutely, sir.

Prof: -Is God good?

Student:-Sure.

Prof:-Is God all-powerful?

Student: -Yes.

 

 Top Comment : Manoj Kumar   | 06 27 2011 12:18:10 +0000
Hiren, Just want to say that I posted the same few months bahs back. See the link ( http://toostep.com/insight/no-god-or-know-god-interesting-arguement-in-a-class-room ) You can see its second part also....http://toostep.com/insight/no-god-or-know-god-interesting-arguement-part-2 But this is not a complaint...just an information. Let those new memberes also enjoy
 
5 comments on "Cool Amazing Converstaion"
  Commented by  Ardhendu Pal, Job Seeker ..............    | 06 27 2011 19:41:30 +0000
Mr. Hiren.................. OOPS! you did it again?................ Naughty........ 

I'll have to repeat valuable last line of Mr. Manoj Kumar. Hope you got it what I mean to say. Have something totally original man, the taste of originality is always great. No need to worry start doing it and meanwhile if you face any sort of problems seek help as I have read somewhere that "If you don't know, Ask. This will make you seem fool for that particular time but if you don't ask you are fool for the lifetime" 

Please don't take it otherwise take it positively and you will learn that extra everywhere. Good luck and all the best for your new venture......... I'll be always happy to help and moreover there are enormous efficient person available here apart from me. 
What person am I if Issac Newton being the greatest scientist confesses that he is collecting pebbles on the sea shore and yet sea is out of sight then comparatively I am just the lice on the hair of another lice who is sitting on another lice. I, also, have to grow a lot buddy. 

Buckle your shoes to start running in the field of originality.
Hiren, why dont you use the little extra caution reuired. And required particularly from a banker. Post jokes. Post poems. Dont get a bad name. Over a period of time nobody responds to your postings.. Be careful ... a friendly advise from an elder...

Hope you will take it in the right sense...
  Commented by  Hiren Sheth, Cust. Service Manager, ICICI Bank    | 06 27 2011 12:28:48 +0000
I saw your postings Mr.Manoj It was wonderful & Eye opener....
  Commented by  Hiren Sheth, Cust. Service Manager, ICICI Bank    | 06 27 2011 12:23:52 +0000
Mr. Manoj I search this topic on too-step but I can't found it so that I Posted it.
Anyways you know about this story it's nice. I like it.
& You are right new members are enjoy it.

& Mainly Thanks for your co-operation.
  Commented by  Manoj Kumar, Sr: Manager - QA, ARCHETYPE GROUP, INDIA    | 06 27 2011 12:18:10 +0000
Rating : +1 
Hiren, Just want to say that I posted the same few months bahs back. See the link  ( http://toostep.com/insight/no-god-or-know-god-interesting-arguement-in-a-class-room )

You can see its second part also....http://toostep.com/insight/no-god-or-know-god-interesting-arguement-part-2

But this is not a complaint...just an information. Let those new memberes also enjoy
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