IIPM is just another fraud

true :)

Paid news in most respected news papers and channels are confusing the student community. News papers read by one and all. UGC authorities, judicial authorities and other Govt. authorities also read these paid news/advertisements.  Cant they come out with reality in the interest of larger public good.  Unless somebody knock the doors of a court, or UGC, no action would be taken.  This status is allowing the manipulators to continue their actions. 
There are many institutions flouting the UGC directions.  One among them is IIPM.  One of our friend came here with a strange argument that unlike other institutions. IIPM is not charging for prospectus and concludes that it is a good institution.  How funny is this argument.  
Mr. Muralidharan has given a categorical background of the allegations.  Thank you very much for the good information to one and all. 

Anand, There are many institutes and organisations that offering courses which are linked to other universities and recoginized by other nations than India or AICTE. It does not make them fraud. They come under fradulent practises only if they hide this fact or advertise otherwise. Till such time, there is no malpractise involved. In the numerous advertisements of IIPM i haen't come across any of the fraudlent practise. Moreover if TOI is willing to print a whole section or page or edition, then there is no harm in it. It is business deal between TOI & IIPM. Why does it bother you Mr. Anand? Unless you are cheated or let down by any of the promises of IIPM, you do not have to think or act in a negative manner. You are living in India, a democratic country not a banana republic where everything is frowned up. Take it easy man, they have freedom of speech and expression and it does not violate any of the laws.

The problem is that all of us except IIPM students understand this fact. The IIPM students realize it only after a year of competing their course. Someone above mentioned of placement in Oracle, Bangalore. I would suggest him to find the total placement and percentage of students who retain their job after three months in the company in which they are placed. i am surprised why and how people pay lacs of rupees for this institute. 

If it's a fraud one would automatically be rejected. And if not, let others get benefits. India rocks..!

i have a question please answer me
maii is an institute in new delhi lajpat nagar
its bba fee is too high 
its says its an american degree 
so it true.

they have taken registration fee from me n when i clear all the interviews of getting admissions in iipm college they start forcing me to submit the fees i take one day time and on that one day time i come to know about all iipm fraud i think more than that v student r fool who giving a chance to make them us fool because iipm is fraud is a news which is spreading all over india but v young generation busy in faceboook televison roadies n all type of shows n never go for the important thing. i thanks to all my supporters   who tell me the truth of iipm otherwise i will b in iipm and paid 16 lakh fee.

"Yha sab chalta hai..." knowing is not enough,we must apply. Simply posting on toostep will not bear any result. There was raids on the IIPM but as usual nothing happened.

The topic throws good light on fake/fradulant educaitonal institutions in its larget perspective.  Its not fair to pin-point just one institution/individual and shoot!!.  There are many universities/institutions (many are well known names in the market) and announce that they are giving "degrees"...  Unfortunately most of the victims come from middle class back-ground, who afraid to voice their protest.

At least govt. should have a very clear policy on education and its standards now...

Manjunath

First of all thanx ANAND M for the detailed information..since so much information against IIPM is available in public domain, its time for govt woke up and did something decisive to save future of many students 

I remember that Arindham chaudry has spoken, may be a year ago, on recognition. he has categorically said,[not exactly the same words, but correct content wise] " we are not for govt approval or recognition. we aim for the approval of the industry and produce the result accordingly". still one can call it 'fraud'?. the decision is with you whether to enroll. get the insight, result, outcome and decide.

thanks for sharing an important information on such forum.Thanks Anand.

thanks for sharing an important information on such forum.Thanks Anand.

This is pretty serious topic, kind an eye-opener for the entire host of 'Business Schools' mushrooming and money spinning by pulling students to their traps.The Govt and AICTE must act right now and set the benchmark for the business schools. Somebody 'Daring IIM' as its ad headline is also daring the current status of business education standard.

Thanks Anand for the post. Whenever i used to see their full page adverts i used to wonder that IIPM was the next biggest scam to happen in the education sector. But i wonder why it hasnt attracted the govt. attention yet? Will they wake up only after a few students career go wate. But in their 10 yrs of existence i havent come across a single complaint of cheating or otherwise. I have personally visited their office and they do seem to have pretty good infrastructure.

But their rise has been so rapid and sudden that it makes one wonder on their source of funding. I beleive they operate out of their own premises in most of their cities. Wonder how ?

Anand I always suspected this. They lure students with trips abroad giving them laptops and probably have some sort of understanding with some overseas companies where job is provided.

The amount of money they spent on advertising is mind boggling.

ITS WRONG TO STATE THAT IIPM IS DOING ANY FRAUD. THEY THEMSELVES NEVER SAID THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING ANY DEGREE RECOGNISED BY THE AICTE ACT. THEY JUST WANT TO KEEP OUTSIDE THE CHAOTIC REGULATORY PROCEDURES OF THE GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES.
 
THE SAME WAY,ISB, HYDERABAD HAS NOT GOT ANY RECOGNITION FROM THE AICTE. IN SPITE OF THE SAME, THEY HAVE GOT APPROVAL FROM THE ANDRHA PRADESH STATE GOVT.
 
SO IT IS AN ISSUE WHICH NEEDS TO BE DULY ADJUDICATED BY THE JUDICIARY WHETHER UGS OR AICTE RECOGNITION IS MANDATORY OR NOT. ACCORDING TO A DELHI HIGH COURT JUDGMENT, IT IS MEANT TO BE MANDATORY. BUT WE NEED TO WAIT FOR MORE CLEARER JUDGMENT.

It is just an institute that can be sorted and better than FAKE universities abroad. Getting cheated at home is better than getting fooled abroad.

However, a good eye-opener discussion. Don't expect action from the govt. It a private organization of so called Gandhis, who are actually Nehrus. They made an investment in the mask of Freedom Struggle, and milking now. 

IIPM is a scam!
FACT #1: IIPM does not offer real MBA degrees
After going to court, IIPM agreed to stop pretending that it's a real university: "IIPM agreed to make it clear in its advertisements that it offers only certificate courses(Source: Indian Express, June 28, 2009) 

FACT #2: IIPM is not legally accredited as a university
IIPM is not recognized by the UGC or AICTE. IIPM has even testified to the Supreme Court of India that it is not a university. (Source: Business Standard, August 26, 2010; Zee News, June 27, 2008)

FACT #3: Most IIPM "professors" are actually IIPM graduates
According to IIPM's own prospectus, most faculty members are just former IIPM graduates—even though IIPM advertising seems to suggest that the faculty consists of famous international professors. The average age of the faculty is just 27. (Source: Businessworld India, October 31, 2005)

FACT #4: IIPM evades taxes
What kind of business education can be offered by tax cheats? As of 2005, IIPM had underpaid taxes by Rs. 3.3 crores. In 2007, the Indian Government's Ministry of Finance formally initiated proceedings against IIPM for failing to pay taxes from 2004 to 2006. (Source: Government of India, May 15, 2007; The Hindu, December 7, 2005)
And what not? (http://www.iipmscam.com/)
Thanks,Anand for referral

Is it realy so..?

Mr. Anand M,
I really appreciate your effort of mass awareness and my wholehearted salutations extends herewith.
Coming to the point please render us the rights for re-posting it to other social networks that we have for mass awareness point of view.
Thanks and many hands of applause for your attention and deliverance of a vital information. 

Thanx for sharing rubish news. If we agree you 95% of the instiutes are offering paper which you call a valid degree. Companies like NIIT, Aptech are playing with people and culture and making fool of us. 
Kindly do not share such rubish article with anybody.

Well you are talking about IIPM, in my past 10 years.. i experienced that education system in India, can only be compared to shops and markets. Where need of education has been exploited fully and openly under the shelter of the government. Luring the candidates through advt., where they show sexy, small skirt girls coming and smiling in the institution (eg. one can notice this in NIIT's campaigns),  beautiful girly counselors. Providing fake scholarships, making trappy fee structures, providing stipend while working in partner industries/companies... and the list goes longer and longer. For an average class student in India, the education has a 3rd rated quality provided by these money making shopkeepers. The partner companies won't allow you to enter and get a job if you don't have a "thappa" of these institutes...  There is no escape from becoming a scape-goat, unless you get a chance to get the education from abroad.

In reality IIPM degrees are all from foreign universities. Private companies, even the reputed ones doesn't bother about that but the degrees are not recognised by MHRD, AICTE or UGC. It is always mentioned at the bottom of any IIPM newspaper adds. Therefore, the IIPM degrees are not recognised in govt sector or companies. 

The matter is sub-judice in the Karnataka High Court. Therefore, taking up this issue and discussing them in public is not proper.

Last year, on 26th August 2010, Live Mint carried this article "IIPM Not Recognized by the Government says UGC", to which, IIPM Group President for Corporate Affairs Amit Saxena said the institute wasn’t a university nor was it empowered to award degrees on its own “and nor does it do (so)."

“However IIPM is the on-site academic partner of M S University which grants its degrees to IIPM students,” Saxena contends adding that IIPM had made representations to the UGC and Andhra Pradesh State Council of Higher Education to “clarify the stand.” He said the subject was sub judice at the Delhi high court.

IIPM is authorized to offer two-year MBA and three-year BBA and BCA courses under technical collaboration in all its 18 centres, said S. Manickam, registrar of Tirunelveli-based Manomaniam Sundaranar (M S ) University, in a letter enclosed by Saxena. Mint couldn’t immediately reach Manickam for comment.

The matter is again sub-judice and the case is in the Karnataka High Court which is likely to be taken up on July 14th. 
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The Karnataka High Court on Monday directed the State government and the University Grants Commission (UGC) to respond to the notices issued to them on the petitions filed by students, who made a series of allegations against the Indian Institute of Planning and Management (IIPM).

Justice S. Abdul Nazeer, who noticed that the authorities had not filed their replies as per the earlier orders of the court, directed that the Principal Secretary, Higher Education Department, and Secretary, UGC, to be present in the court on July 14 if they failed to submit their response to the court before that date.

Complaint

The petitioner-students had sought directions to the authorities to initiate action either to de-recognise or close the IIPM branch in Bangalore, complaining that the institute was not providing them with registration, recognition and affiliation details.

The petitioners were admitted to the two-year MBA programme in planning and entrepreneurship management.
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As the counsel for the IIPM, during the hearing, pointed out that the institute had obtained licence under the provisions of the Karnataka Shops and Establishments Act, the court asked the government to find out the status of the IIPM.

‘Not a varsity'

The IIPM counsel informed the court that the institute had never claimed to be a university.

THE CAUSE FOR CONCERN IS NOT THE AD HE GIVES BUT THE MOST WORRYING FACTOR IS THE LONG SPELL OF SILENCE FROM HRD MINISTRY.WHO WILL TAKE THE INITIATIVE.

Strange..

 

I can only say a couple of things :

1.  All this is very old news , which keeps surfacing every now and then.

2.  If you search for "IIPM fraud" on the Internet , you will come across old stories from 2005 , basically by a couple of disgruntled ex-students.

3.  If you search for "IIPM Pioneer" , you will come across an article on the Daily Pioneer , which totally supports IIPM. Difficult to say whether this is bought or genuine.

My only point is that the articles by Arindam Chaudhuri are very intelligent , knowledgeable and well-written articles ; I have yet to see such articles from any other writer. People like Chetan Bhagat write for TOI on all subjects , and we don't say anything about his qualifications or knowledge or background , basically because he writes well.

Why don't we give Arindam the same benefit of doubt ?

IIPM is one of the few institutes which offers its prospectus free ; most colleges charge even Rs. 1500/- for a prospectus !

I do not know for sure whether IIPM is genuine or not , but I will not be swayed by this very old article. Read the "Sunday Indian" and decide for yourself.

I am astonished. Can a professional Institute run for so many years successfully with out any approval formalities. If it is true, than I must say that the IIPM definitely given a new direction to the whole education system of our country.

Oh, you MUST read this article --->

http://caravanmagazine.in/Story/1001/IIPM-s-Rs500-million-lawsuit-against--em-The-Caravan--em-.html

Thanx Shahnawaz for that Caravan article. Unfortunately, that article has been removed as per a High Court injuction. Anyway, I post here a comment on the Caravan site:
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"arindam is a one of the great criminal, who speaks ethics and preaching politicians, who has no moral responsibility with his employees..i have worked in his institution for 3 long years..without appointment order..no employees can surely say when will the salary come...it is the state of his media people also...ethicless thug he is...grill ur chicken before they breed..."

thanks for referral anand. i donno abt it not being recognised cos one of my friends did her MBA from IIPM and got placed in oracle, blore. she never mentioned anything abt all this

This is what the FAQ page of the IIPM website says:
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1. Does AICTE/UGC recognize IIPMs programme in planning and entrepreneurship?

No. IIPM has never sought recognition from any statutory bodies and is proud of its world class course contents. Students bothered about statutory recognition of IIPMs programmes need not apply to IIPM. The exceptional education that IIPM imparts and the excellent placements offered to IIPM graduates year after year is proof of the massive industry recognition of IIPM’s courses.

Thanks for referral Mr. Anand.
It is good that you highlighted it here. May help many to get their mind cleaned now against IIPM. 

Its good that you shared it here with Thousand of Indians....but I am worried about millions out there...who still don't have this information!!!

Indians can be easily fooled by Indians & IIPM is the classic example of this.
Thanks for sharing it on TOOSTEP, Anand.

This topic will be of great use to all those upcoming MBA aspirants. Thanks for the referral

The plot thickens. Google and Caravan Magazine are being sued for the article on  Arindam Chaudhari-- http://www.caravanmagazine.in/Story/717/Sweet-Smell-of-Success.html

I dont know it is fake or not. But i can definitely say that they are doing many manipulation towards student. I have seen so many advertisement full page & half page not only times of india but here local paper also (Saurashtra samachar a Divya bhaskar group). They are giving alternate day advertisement and offer various as above mentioned by Mr.Nihit. Even they are compare with IIM by ranking in advertisement.

It clearly show the one thing that they are getting less students so that giving advertisement. Students are also making mistake, they are not analyzed properly and take admission to do M.B.A. Not only IIPM but many private colleges are already entered which is doing just business and many manipulation..

Thanks Anand for referal...

Good topic. Pls read the extract from an educational portal and you will know how they can afford to take so many full page ads.

Fraudulent conspiracy

The outrageously misleading ad campaigns in the print and audio-visual media of a growing number of professional education institutions relating to rankings, placements and foreign faculty has compelled the Delhi-based Advertising Standards Council of India (ASCI)  to intervene. A report in the business daily Mint (August 16) says that ASCI has finalised a code of conduct which will curb and/or penalise advertisers and media for  publishing misleading ads of professional education institutions.

According to informed sources within the persuaders’ industry, the ASCI crackdown has been prompted by the sustained advertising blitz of the Delhi-based Indian Institute of Planning & Administration (IIPM, estb. 1973) in particular. Essentially a family-run business enterprise promoted by Dr. M. K. Chaudhuri who briefly served on the faculty of IIM-Bangalore, his son Arindham Chaudhuri and daughter-in-law Rakshita, IIPM claims to be “the world’s largest independent business school”. Unfortunately for the IIPM management, investigations conducted by several respectable print media publications including Businessworld and Mint indicate that most of the tall claims made by the institute are pure baloney.

Complicit in IIPM’s questionable business development strategy is Bennett Coleman & Co Ltd (B&C) — India’s largest media company which owns the best-selling Times of India and its affiliated television channel Times Now. Under Bennett Coleman’s notorious ‘private treaties’ initiative, ToI, Times Now and other publications and channels of B&C have traded free advertising and puff editorial coverage for IIPM in exchange for equity shares of the holding company of the B-school.

Contrary to popular belief, a well-engineered conspiracy can fool a huge number of — if not all — the people all the time.

Its are all over the place in TOI because you know why, TOI is Toilet Paper of India that is the reason. Anyway, anything which glitters a lot will never be a genuine ones

Very true. And thanks for sharing this important piece of information here.

True... still with advertisements, foreign trips and laptops.. they are easily luring the students... 

its new news boss 
  thanks for awaring me