Are we really developing towards a energy conserving, energy efficient and sustainably developed world......?????

Mr. Praveen Verma....let me clear u that i am talking on the general development and just not on Pune-Mumbai expressway.....

Second thing as u want to convey that expressways are good everywhere then according to ur example the whole golden quadrilateral doesnt come under hill regions....Instead of making new expressways, cant we just upgrade our existing old highways...By doing this we conserve man, material and money....most important are the resources...and u r just concentrating on Pune-mumbai expressway...Pls give ur thought at national level....

I make my point more clearer to u now....have seen the National highway passing near to Pench National park in Madhya Pradesh...m talking about the existing old one....The high way is good but it just needs to get broaden...thats all..Now the thing is this golden quadrilateral is passing through this National park....and they are proposing a flyover through national nark...now is this not nuts and a wastage of time, money and resources...instead they can just upgrade the old highway and connect the expressway to that....

According to your example it was must to have a straight highway...but that is pune-mumbai highway...one of the most dangerous highways and that because of it passes through tough ghats of western ghats.....but wht about gujarat, Rajasthan, Punjab, Haryana, and many more states who are having plain terrains and not a single ghat comes during travelling....

Now please reveiw your thought and reply....i m waiting for ur precious thinking.... But pls think globally...Again i want to highlight that in my answer...Golden Quadrilateral was just a example out of a huge heap of examples....So pls think on National level and then answer my question...Ok buddy...thanks for giving your valuable thoughts....Good Day....

Hi,

Mr Gokhale, as I understood there are two points in your post i.e. one about road network and second about automobilization.

I fully disagree with your comments on road network because of following reasons:

1. The good road conditions not only increases the speed of the vehicles but also helps in saving the fuel. The excellent example is Mumbai Pune Express way. I have travelled on old road and express way both. The express way is around 20-25 kms shorter then the old route that too without any ghat section. So with this we are saving lot of money on fuel cost.

2. I remember the days when I used to travel from Mumbai to Pune on old road. This was taking around 4-5 hours to reach to Mumbai i.e. 4-5 kms for 200 kms. So the average speed was around 40 km/hour. So here we were running our cars / vehicles at a speed which is lower then the speed on which we get maximum fuel economy i.e 60 km/hour. So again there was a fuel loss.

3. Due to bad road conditions there was lot of accidents on the old road and many people have lost the life on this road. This cant be quantify in terms of any saving as human life is precious.

4. The damages to the vehicle was more on the old road due to bad road condition. This indirectly links to the national waste as the spare parts needs replacement. Other then the national waste of natural resources there was energy loss for manufacturing these items. One can argue that this gives the boost to GDP and employment, but I dont accept this because I feel that such contribution in GDP is a wasteful contribution.

5. Due to bad road condition the cost of transportation is high. This effects the inflation of the country as most of our stuff transported through road network.

So in all the way the good road network is a key to success. With regards to the all type of energy losses you have mentioned in your post, I would like to inform you these are one time investment but when we will compare to all the gains then these losses are very small.

However I agree with your point on the automobilization. This needs to be reduced. To my mind to some extent it linked to the road network again. If the roads are good then people wont mind travelling in the Bus.

Regards

Praveen varma

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well, as far as indians are considered, we are not at all a good energy managers. The examples can be seen in our daily life, at homes , in the streets -- street lights still turned on , in the broad daylight, IN THE OFFICES AIR CONDITIONING UNITS RUNNING AT FULL LOADS.

WHERIN OTHER PARTS FACING ACUTE SHORTAGE OF POWER. THE WORST COMES IN SUMMER WHEN THE LOAD SHEDDING IS FOR HOURS.

THE FIRST STEP OF ENERGY CONSERVATION HAS TO BE TAKEN FROM INDIVIDUAL LEVEL AND THEN IT SHOULD BE MADE A NATIONAL ISSUE.

Yes Mr.Gokhale I agree with your point.People should realise the importance of consuming less energy and instead of travelling with their own vehicle..they should take the services of public transport...To encourage this the government and the people themselves should take the initiative and promote this idea......By the way I did not mean that you were against country's development......

Mr. Vineet prakash i m not against country's development....n also not against Golden Quadrilateral project...i just wanted to highlight that how much energy are we consuming in such development whose future we dont know will exist or not. What is the certainity that a better efficient fuel car or vehicle will be launched that can run on this expressways for a longtime. For e.g. Now-a-days we are talking about introducing electric cars in market...But wht will be there efficiency...will they be able to cross the whole length...This cars cant even complete the distance from delhi to mumbai....Now you talking of energy efficient automobiles....tell me wht u think....by wht time or within how many years these automobiles can be introduced....there is no answer because the job is of automobile industries and they are not doing tht due to their personal interest... Now we have to think of some output which is quick and easy to implement. For these we have to take certain strong steps like boosting mass transports.....this is one of the best solutions....If we introduce more n more buses/ public transport and provide a frequent and efficient service then no private vehicle is needed during travelling....y people prefer private instead of public transport....

Such solutions will be more accurate and fruitfull for tackling the energy problem...

As of ur saying that we should create more efficient automobiles....then wht is the need for introducing more new models in market and increasing the pressure of fuel availability...Just think in a single bus atleast 60 persons can travel easily (equivalent to 15 cars)....just imagine how many car will be replaced by these mass transport....all roads will be clear and no traffic jams...there will be no need of more developing roads and broadening them....

So now u tell me is there any requirement for such development....????????

Mr.Gokhale this is a good question that you have asked and it's very difficult to say whether are we really taking any initiative to conserve energy and for a healthy and sustainable environment.....But the point that you are talking about here is  whether "The Golden Quadrilateral" project that the government is thinking of implementing should go ahead or not seeing the negatives that are related to it which you have mentioned......But don't you think so that  this expressway connecting all parts of the country will be so convenient for all the commuters and instead of seeing the amount of energy which is consumed and other factors...we should be focussing on developing energy efficient automobiles which will consume less energy and benefit the environment....We should think of finding solutions as to how we can contribute in saving energy and make world a better place to live in instead of halting the development of the country.