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Question posted: 08 11 2009 08:34:08 +0000,
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07 06 2010 20:18:08 +0000
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historical cost,revaluation,mergers,demergers,restructuring,buy back.issuing capital at premium.all have come in the last few years and made ratio analysis a use less tool.
EPS can be easily manupulated.hence price earnings ratio.
debts have been converted in to equity at all most will.and equity bought back .this has left a huge vaccum in ratio analysis. hence debt equity ratios are manipulated.
issue of equity at premium simulataniuos write off of reserves.
merger at historical cost.
mergers of huge assest at a very small addition in equity reseults in a distorted picture of earning quality of ratios.
if you are new to this field and going by just ratios you would be doing a great mistake.
companies which have stoped there working for a few years all the ratios are distorted,and the assest in the books are shown at historical price.you would not know the hidden cost.or hidden reserves.
Ratio's of the company can be manipulated this is not a correct question if you have notice the biggest comapny froad "Satyam" the software company it has done the complet manipulation of its account and the froad when it has come out. There are many such example in India and abroad of manipulation of ratio's and froad if you want the just go to the google and type froad company cases you will get thousands of company cases.
Yes Sandesh sir,
it’s the company or accountants. Regarding auditors I think, there can be fraud due to teeming up and some of the icai members were punished for this. Also the auditor can be held liable if he is proven to have not exercised professional expertise and due diligence.
And sometimes by the particular nature of the industry work of auditors become more challenging. For example in the case of satyam itself, dealing with computer software (intangible and technical knowledge) auditing of work in progress, goods in transit, finished products etc are very demanding and usually they can only look for some supporting documents or corroborative evidence. Also auditors are usually at a disadvantage when it comes to fraud by top management and teeming and lading fraud.
I think we should give more thrust to forensic accounting, internal control and better laws to prevent and curb corporate fraud. Recently an article comparing our judiciary system to us’s, Bernard Madoff who was arrested in last December for cheating investors sentenced to 150 years within 6 months while in the case our former satyam CEO who was also arrested in last December the trial is yet to begin.
it is no th e auditors who does the accounting .yaa at times they may be consultanst to such acts.it is the management of th ecompany which prepares the accounts the auditors audit it and vouch it to the best of there knowledge to the correctness and the guidelines of institue of chartered accountant is followed.
infact a auditor is a agent of the state.he is appointed because the law requires him to audit the accounts and give his observation s required by the institue and various statutes.
I also agree with what Darshil sir said, they can be easily manipulated in the short run using opportunistic accounting
Accounting policies and practices affect financial ratios. They are based on historic costs and can be misleading during inflation and change in methods of valuation of assets (lifo, fifo),depreciation, classification into current and noncurrent, accounting period used, capitalization of expenditure etc can affect.
Ratio's of the companies can be easily manipulated by the auditors and the companies. As raios are not to be manipulated the inputs of the ratios are to be manipulated by window dressing of the balance sheet items.
As in the case of Satyam the ratios reflected as one of the best bets in the I.T. industry and even the analysts used to advice retail investors to invest for long term. But the window dressed balance sheet had a hidden cash reflected which did not exist physically, so the ratios were easily manipulated by the auditors and the comapny.
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