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Asked by : Geoffrey Kubuli Makhanu, Estates Manager, Kisii University College
Activity: Question posted: 08 26 2010 20:32:55 +0000, 4 answers, 567 views, last activity 09 07 2010 06:40:17 +0000
 
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I want some light in a number of issues regarding turbogenerator's speed control.
Can somebody tell me the following:

1. When generator is not connected to the grig, when openning steam regulating valves and allowing more steam to turbine, turbine will rotate faster, right?

2. Generator is mechanicaly coupled with the turbine and it always rotates same speed as turbine.

3. When generator is in parallel with the grid, it cannot rotate faster or slower then 50Hz (suppose for Europe) or 3000 rpm (2 pole machine), or in another way, it will rotate the same speed as grid's frequency (for example 49.98 Hz).

4. When generator is synchronized with the grid, adjusting steam control valves cannot change the speed of the turbine/generator and it will change only output power.

I'm looking forward to your comments.
Thank you very much.

 
  Answered by     S.Sushil Kumar, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 09 07 2010 06:40:17 +0000
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Dear Sushmita,

I only saw ur discussion board now, and I find U have received many clarifications....I will agree with what Mr.balasubramanya, of KIOCL Ltd: has written....there is a Mechanical accessory called the Governor' and an Electrical one called the 'AVR' which 2gether carry out the function of Speed-Control...regards....Sushil kumar.

  Answered by     suresh kumar, Industrial Engineer N P C I L  | 09 01 2010 19:15:37 +0000
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steam turbine when not connected to grid rotate freely without any load tx by generator. in such case we can increase the speed of turbine upto any value, limited by any overspeed trip paramaters like 10% of the normal 3000rpm.

in case when we are connected to the grid, grid acts as a load where we can transfer the power at constant voltage and constant freq. we can transmit power upto our capacity (like capacity of 200MWe any plant say X) limited by the capacity of grid as a load. now the question is how much we can transmit.

now prime mover is steam and excitation to synchronous generator is provided via some excitation system. as synchronous gen is connected to the grid, it will rotate at given frequency (freq limited by load in grid, more is freq less is load and vice versa). if you go through the phasor diagram of the generator, Ef= Vt + IaXs
 where Vt is terminal voltage (output of genrator proportional to grid voltage) Ef is excitation voltage and Ia is armature current and Xs is armature resistance.

Ia is power limiting factor and remaining factors are constant.

as P = Vt* Ia cos@

@ will decide whether excitation is inductive or capacitive and can be adjusted to lagging power factor so as to avoid end heating of stator.

so @ is decided.

Vt is constant

so P is proportional to Ia, which is is decided by prime mover ie steam, rotating the rotor at fixed speed

torque is equivalent to force*distance

  Answered by     BALASUBRAMANYA , Asst. Manager/Manager (Technical), KIOCL ltd.  | 08 31 2010 17:22:57 +0000
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hello madam

the velocity of the turbine is maintained constant at all loads through the governor of the turbine.this governor is inturn controlled by an automatic voltage regulator or simply AVR.when there an increase in load the voltage drops anr AVR makes the govrenor to supply more steam to maintain constant voltage and vice versa.on no load there is no drop in voltage so the generator runs at rated speed.as the system works on closed loop system the generator will not overspeed.

  Answered by     Susmita Roy, Project Manager, Tata Steel  | 08 30 2010 11:31:18 +0000
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Its a good question you have asked Mr.Geoffrey. I truly have a very faint idea on steam turbines but I'm sure my friends on this platform will help you out.

 
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